Live data from Hacker News

Poll: Do you prefer the office or work from home?

news.ycombinator.com

81–90 of 371 posts

Re: Poll: Do you prefer the office or work from home?

#81
I'm an EM who went from full onsite, to hybrid, to full remote. This is my favorite topic.

Throughout the pandemic we surveyed employees and they largely preferred to WFH. A lesser but significant cohort preferred a hybrid setup. Almost nobody at all was in favor of full-onsite. I was in the hybrid camp. I thought I could have the comraderie of the workplace and the dynamism of a bustling city, plus enjoy the comforts and efficiencies of WFH. On paper it sounds great. In practice it doesn't work at all.

As an employee: I found that the office felt empty and dead which made me question commuting in. Nobody was really around to go to happy hours or have events. A significant portion of the people I wanted to be around were opting to stay home more.

As an employer/manager: We found capacity planning to be hard. You can't save by scaling office space down if everyone is hybrid and still coming in on the same days (tues, weds, thurs, obviously). You also can't have a lively environment with A/B days and half-staff, and it creates headaches around who needs to be in together and when people want to be there. Communicating is easier if everyone just joins the meeting from their own laptop _wherever_ and doesn't need to arrive to a conference room and fight with some silly speakerphone-camera-tv thing.

So I'm ALL IN on remote work. Does it have downsides? Of course. I miss bonding with coworkers, going out to coffee/lunch, and impromptou hack-sessions. What I have gained is different and so much more valuable: Hours of extra time per day to devote to family, friends, health and hobbies. Work is work, and life is life. It's a revelation to realize that you don't _need_ to be IRL buddies with coworkers, just do great work together, and then go do your own thing.

Commuting is literally wasted money and life-- Full-stop. Corporate workspaces are redundant if the work can be done from home rather than letting that space go unused. This is just trimming wasted time and money and putting it somewhere more useful. I also find office attire to be insane. Countless individuals stressing about what shirt/pants/shoes combo to wear... ironing and paying for dry cleaning. Just go on your zoom call wearing something and use your brain to get shit done. Thats the whole point of work.

Re: Poll: Do you prefer the office or work from home?

#82
I'm working from an office now but my direct coworkers are all in other cities. I think actually working colocated with the people on my team is close to my no. 1 criteria for any new/teams jobs going forward. Maybe not totally ignoring comp, but I could definitely imagine taking some comp hit if it meant getting to work with a team again or not.

I think the most interesting thing about a lot of this is how wide the spectrum of desires is. It ranges from "you couldn't pay me enough to work from an office again" to "you couldn't pay me enough to WFH".

Re: Poll: Do you prefer the office or work from home?

#83
post #13

At the start of the pandemic, I knew I would miss working with people in person, but thought I would be totally great with WFH. Now, I know that I badly need some amount of in-person time with my coworkers on a weekly basis, or I go crazy. It's a motivational thing for me. I thrive on solving problems for and with other people, and there's an "out of sight, out of mind" effect for me over zoom. It's just harder for m…

I found that for the first few years, but eventually got used to it. 13 years later it doesn't bother me. Having a young family at home with me definitely helps defeat the loneliness though.

Re: Poll: Do you prefer the office or work from home?

#86
post #18

Working from home means I get to see my wife and children for more hours of the day. It also means that I get to choose when I will allow myself to be interrupted, rather than sitting in an open concept office and being _continually_ interrupted. I've been working from home for over six years. I never want to return to the office. I will change careers before I return to a software development office.

I agree for the most part, except that I once had a software job where I had my own office, and it was the best. I could spend half of the day with the door left open, and fix my coworker's problems, and then spend the rest of the day with my door closed doing deep work. It gave me a great sense of what pain points were effecting others, but also allowed me to shut off the distractions when needed.

I absolutely cannot get anything done with open office floor plans. And commuting is life wasted.

Re: Poll: Do you prefer the office or work from home?

#87
post #62
post #13

At the start of the pandemic, I knew I would miss working with people in person, but thought I would be totally great with WFH. Now, I know that I badly need some amount of in-person time with my coworkers on a weekly basis, or I go crazy. It's a motivational thing for me. I thrive on solving problems for and with other people, and there's an "out of sight, out of mind" effect for me over zoom. It's just harder for m…

This kind of makes you a bad coworker. I would be annoyed if someone actually needed to pester me in person regularly to function. I work from home to avoid people like that now. If I was in the office I would not want to talk to anybody unless we had some prearranged meeting on a specific topic.

> If I was in the office I would not want to talk to anybody unless we had some prearranged meeting on a specific topic.

This is the sort of honesty I’d love to hear when interviewing candidates.

Re: Poll: Do you prefer the office or work from home?

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The absolute absurdity of sitting in an open office, and pretending to program the full 9-5. That's just not how work like this happens. Why do companies pay their developers high salaries, but then tie one hand behind their backs like that. For me? Never again.

Why are you pretending to program the full 9-5? I like the office and am currently working in the office but I just... get up and leave whenever I want. Come back whenever I want. No need to pretend to work 9-5.

At least in my case, praise has often been given out based on time of work rather than work.

I am a hard worker because I send 2AM emails (which I may have scheduled in advance to give that impression).

Re: Poll: Do you prefer the office or work from home?

#89
For me at least, the real answer is of course much more nuanced. I'm probably well off being in my home office. We're making it work. I get a lot more time to hang out with my wife, or pick up my kid from school in the middle afternoon. But do I miss some creative meetings around the whiteboard in the office? Bet you!

Re: Poll: Do you prefer the office or work from home?

#90
post #13

At the start of the pandemic, I knew I would miss working with people in person, but thought I would be totally great with WFH. Now, I know that I badly need some amount of in-person time with my coworkers on a weekly basis, or I go crazy. It's a motivational thing for me. I thrive on solving problems for and with other people, and there's an "out of sight, out of mind" effect for me over zoom. It's just harder for m…

I'm in exactly the same boat. Working from home has a lot of advantages (as a longer sleeper, I can get up later, I can eat at home, I don't need to travel, I have a really nice setup etc) but I really miss having a coffee break with coworkers. We regularly do some Zoom coffee meetings or are even having a drink, but it's not a perfect replacement.

On the other hand, the pandemic really took the fun from meeting people all day, so I don't think I'd be happy in an office either, at least under the current circumstances.

Post reply on HN