I think there is also correlation to the how well people digest food, which coincidentally means that chronic constipation often accompanies depression.
Gut microbe linked to depression in large health study
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Fiber being a type of carb is also found in other high carb foods like beans, whole grains, potatoes (with skin), and popcorn. Beans are the best source of fiber by a mile in terms of quantity.
What kind of beans, baked beans? Fava?
Black beans, kidney beans, white beans, garbanzo beans, lima beans, black eyed beans.... we can go on if you like. Don't forget the huge variety of lentils as well.
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#193There was a lot of work on microbiome and cancer immunotherapy... the latest study in the field published in the most prestigious journal there is [1] seemed to show that fibre intake was more important than any specific microbe. In fact they found that eating more fibre and taking probiotics resulted in worse outcomes than just eating more fibre alone. This was recapitulated in a mouse model: > Together, these data…
a healthy microbiome should be self sustaining. why would it be useful to eat bacteria that is supposed to be present in the gut already anyway. what does make sense though is providing a favorable environment. for that it will be useful to provide certain substances on a regular basis. so, going from microbiome to fiber might make plenty of sense even from the microbiome perspective.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not a good argument at all. What 'modification' do you think is a risk and how would it cause the concerns your worried about?
To put the question back what benefit does it provide aside from cost?
A liveable Earth? Look up "nine planetary boundaries". The "biogeochemical boundary" especially pertains to the nitrogen and phosphorus cycles, both necessary to plants. Nitrogen- and phosphorus-supplying fertilizer is energy intensive to produce and toxic in wide-area run-off. Some crops live in a symbiotic relationship with nitrogen-fixing bacteria, so scientists are actively researching ways of engineering that abiility into other crops -- which would greatly reduce the need for producing fixed nitrogen for fertilizer, which, in turn, would greatly reduce the need for the high fossil-fuel-consuming method of generating fixed nitrogen for fertilizer, thus helping out on the global warming front. It's not all about cost.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sorry to hear about your experiences and it sounds like you learned a lot from firsthand knowledge. But, respectfully asking, what does inflammatory foods or poor eating habits have to do with GMO foods?
Also why would GMO be bad? The criticism comes mostly from people that also believe in osteopathic / homeopathic medicine in my social circle. I find it a terrific chance for humanity to engineer plants in such a way that they are more robust against disease and bad weather (with CRISPR/CAS and such methods).
In theory, there are lots of fine things we could do with GMOs. In practice, basically the only common use of GMOs is to allow indiscriminate use of pesticides and herbicides. This is purely about profit for chemical companies, without regard for environmental impact. I don't care to eat more pesticides and herbicides, either.
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#196Just another data point, but my journey through digestive issues and recovery was kicked off by the worst depression and burnout I ever experienced, which started in 2019 and lasted 3 years. My best guess for what happened is that work stress, excessive celebration and coping with the cognitive dissonance of the pre-COVID era and subsequent pandemic, combined with overtraining and the misuse of protein shakes in plac…
ZachMorris, the Same thing happened to me. Almost identical. Except have not really been cured. Agree 100% with what you wrote.
What was your protocol to heal? I need some pointers as nothing has really helped.
Thanks in advance.
Re: Gut microbe linked to depression in large health study
#197There was a lot of work on microbiome and cancer immunotherapy... the latest study in the field published in the most prestigious journal there is [1] seemed to show that fibre intake was more important than any specific microbe. In fact they found that eating more fibre and taking probiotics resulted in worse outcomes than just eating more fibre alone. This was recapitulated in a mouse model: > Together, these data…
a healthy microbiome should be self sustaining. why would it be useful to eat bacteria that is supposed to be present in the gut already anyway. what does make sense though is providing a favorable environment. for that it will be useful to provide certain substances on a regular basis. so, going from microbiome to fiber might make plenty of sense even from the microbiome perspective.
From the article:
>The finding, which emerged from a study of how genetics and diet affect the microbiome, “is really solid proof that this association could have major clinical importance.”
It seems genetics can play a role in some people having a healthy flora. Maybe their bodies can't convert a certain bacteria from food stuff efficiently, thus they are required to supplement.
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#198Gut microbiome researcher here - not involved in this study but happy to answer questions or dig in with anyone interested!
How does alcohol affect gut bacteria? Is there enough research that the negative effects on the gut can be linked to changes in gut microbiota?
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Anti - GMO crowd is definetly very similar to anti vaxxers and other science deniers spreading dangerous propaganda while eating oranges and bananas.
Don't forget the 5G radiation...
If you remove 5g it’s actually a common technique to bombard seeds with radiation and look for useful mutations
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My impression is quite the opposite - GMO insect-resistant plants enable using much less pesticides (the savings from reduced frequency and quantity of pesticides being the economic reason for choosing such crops) than non-modified equivalents.
This article [0] points towards the reality being somewhere in the middle - more herbicides but less insecticides. > GMOs have been changing the way that pesticides are used in agriculture. Herbicide-tolerant genetically modified (GM) crops have led to an increase in herbicide usage while insecticide-producing GM crops have led to a decrease in insecticides. [0] https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2015/gmos-and-pestic…
> insecticide-producing GM
A decrease in usage, yes. But is it a decrease in what ends upon the plant is what I'd be curious about.