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The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever

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Post by dijonman2 »

microtonal wrote: post #359
bsaul wrote: post #352

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I’m surprised you’re happy about the pass. the only thing the pass does is insure the minority of people who didn’t want the vaccine are forced to be vaccinated. I suppose you didn’t have to be forced, so why do you care ?

so why do you care ? Because the people who didn't want to be vaccinated take up all the hospital and intensive care beds, leading to many postponed surgeries. E.g. in The Netherlands in October, unvaccinated people took 70% of the intensive care beds allocated to COVID patients, while only being ~16% of the 18+ population. [1] [1] https://www.rivm.nl/nieuws/ongevaccineerde-COVID-19-patiënte...

I’m not getting the vaccine and had covid twice. I have antibodies, which should be recognized in lieu of vaccine. I took no space in a hospital.

It’s a bit hyperbolic at this point, don’t you think?

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Post by watwut »

tut-urut-utut wrote: post #337
roenxi wrote: post #319

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Australia. NSW to be specific since each state had its own response. But US law affects a lot of services I use. And I wish our government had taken a light-touch approach like yours. Dare I say I wish they'd adopted a philosophy of weak governance and respecting people's rights by letting them make their own choices.

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The fact that they expect celebrity to follow the same rules as everyone else is not something bad. Especially since that athlete could have played, if he really wanted to.

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Post by bostik »

kragen wrote: post #216
guy98238710 wrote: post #194

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> They want the police to have all the power they can get because, as far as they're concerned, they're the good guys, and giving the good guys more power helps them win against the bad guys. But we all know that giving excessive power to good guys turns them rather reliably into bad guys.

Everybody thinks they're incorruptible, and they often extend that to institutions they identify with. Very, very few people have ever honestly grappled with their shadow side. Even if you do, you may still prefer your own shadow side to that of whoever your opponents are.

There is a simple rule of thumb: if you would not grant a power to your worst enemy, you do not grant it to your friends either.

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Post by Terry_Roll »

tomc1985 wrote: post #285
Terry_Roll wrote: post #185

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The international standards do just fine for enabling spying. Take Call Line Identification (CLI) aka Caller ID. Any device plugged into the ptsn phone system which can display caller id has to have v23 dial up modem protocol facilities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID#Regional_differences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_V.23 This means _anyone_ with access to the ptsn can upload malicious firmware to a tel…

> reddit or twitter does not and regularly on reddit illegal porn (child & animal) is making the front page of reddit before moderators take it down. I am on reddit multiple times a day for years and I have never seen this happen.

Obviously I'm not going to be making copies of it to report because then I can get done for making illegal porn, that is the way the laws are written. Here is an example using whatsapp. https://www.theregister.com/2014/08/05/whatsapp_smut_convict...

Two blokes in a Whatsapp group, someone sent some animal porn and because they were part of the group they got convicted of downloading.

I accept I can be done for downloading animal and child porn from Reddit's front page, but I think its the legislators way of facilitating animal and child porn distribution whilst convicting those who spoke out to report it.

Thats why I sometimes think criminals are running the world in plain sight masquerading as good guys!

The laws are not fit for purpose.

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Post by bratwurst3000 »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #345
bratwurst3000 wrote: post #340

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Honestly … times have changed. I was a optimistic liberterian once … I still am… but look at reality. You give people and bussines to much freedome and they use it for things that harm society. Facebook and telegram for example. Snake oil sellers where allways a problem but now it seeems to explode and destroy my liberterian word view :(

Just interesting, how does Telegram specifically harm society? By letting right wing freaks have their echo chambers there, or do you mean something else?

I meant that. Telegram was symbolic for how the freedom of some can impair the freedom of others. I have nothing against e2e encryption or privacy but as I said my liberterian worldview starts to crumble … toward what? I dont know

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Post by juanani »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #345
bratwurst3000 wrote: post #340

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Honestly … times have changed. I was a optimistic liberterian once … I still am… but look at reality. You give people and bussines to much freedome and they use it for things that harm society. Facebook and telegram for example. Snake oil sellers where allways a problem but now it seeems to explode and destroy my liberterian word view :(

Just interesting, how does Telegram specifically harm society? By letting right wing freaks have their echo chambers there, or do you mean something else?

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Post by baremetal »

guy98238710 wrote: post #194
kragen wrote: post #41

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> These people seem incapable of understanding the existential threat to free society and democracy posed by limiting everyone's ability to communicate private thoughts. The existential threat this bill poses to free society and democracy is exactly why they're supporting it. It's not some accidental side effect. They're opposed to the existence of free society and democracy because it limits government power, which…

> They want the police to have all the power they can get because, as far as they're concerned, they're the good guys, and giving the good guys more power helps them win against the bad guys. But we all know that giving excessive power to good guys turns them rather reliably into bad guys.

the one thing you can be certain of about giving someone authority over others is that they will abuse it. some more, some less. but everyone will abuse it to a degree.

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Post by kragen »

3np wrote: post #305
callalex wrote: post #252

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Why are you writing years as if they are C octals? Standards in communication are important.

As can be seen here, it’s really distracting. Writing years like that is a great way to have people ignore or forget what you’re actually wanting to communicate. Which is unfortunate, as they do have some interesting thoughts that are now masked by insisting on their own edgy year format.

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