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Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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The main thing you're describing is not having a future . You're a bit young for a midlife crisis, but covid has forced it on all of us (I entered mine at 39 and covid just crushed it). And the world has changed a lot; a lot of the future we imagined has really been taken away - that is, it isn't available anymore, not because of something we did wrong, but because the doors have slammed shut. Just for one thing, hav…

> Without a relationship you have no future.

Not to take away from your overall point, but I would encourage people to be skeptical of this claim. Relationships are healthy, yes. They can help to provide meaning and purpose. They may end up giving your life the structure that's been missing before.

But firstly, it's not necessary to be in a single romantic relationship for all of these benefits, a tight-knit group of close friends can be just as great of a boon or almost.

And secondly, leaving a legacy does not equate having a future. Kids are a legacy. Memories that other people keep of you, and changes (hopefully improvements) you make in local communities, society, the world as a whole, that's leaving a legacy. But really, chances are that the world as a whole doesn't give much of a damn about whether your DNA or your work survives. Give it three or four generations and you're at best a footnote somewhere.

And that's okay. Having a future means to shape your life in a way that makes sense to you, that ends up being fulfilling, that lets you experience the good things and the bad things about it conscientiously.

Relationships can help with that. But in no way is having "a" relationship or having kids a prerequite for having a future. Thank you for your time, nitpicking over!

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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I'm in the same boat. I'm procrastinating more and more and I sleep less and less. I've lost interest in doing new things so much that I don't even feel like watching a new show anymore. End up watching Seinfeld again and again. I'm a pink Floyd fan but just few weeks back this finally hit me like it had never before.

"And you run, and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking Racing around to come up behind you again The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time. Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines."

What I'm trying to change now is reset and restart small. Because I now compare myself to all my successful peers, I've forgotten that it takes small steps to build something. So rather than looking at the the final outcome I'm looking to focus more on small and short tasks. There is no going back to my 20's but I can have better and healthier rest of my life.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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I’m in my late 40s. Just gone through 15 years of absolute shit with an ex partner and financial chaos. Decided I’d fix it in 2019. Three important things to concentrate on: 1. Health. If that’s off, fix it first. Everything depends on health. Sort out your diet, physical fitness and health and mental health follows. I’m fitter than all my peers and both fitter and healthier than I was in my 20s. Can run a half marat…

Good things, but Memento Mori. No matter what you do, your health will fail eventually. Decide what your life is about and get about doing it.

That isn't the point the comenters above are making. They are saying that without good physical health it is extremely difficult, maybe impossible, to decide what your lifr is about and get doing about doing it for most people. Health fails eventually, yes-but being active and health conscious makes the end more bearable. My gym has a dozen or so 80+ year olds that could train circles around your average 20 year old.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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I’m in my late 40s. Just gone through 15 years of absolute shit with an ex partner and financial chaos. Decided I’d fix it in 2019. Three important things to concentrate on: 1. Health. If that’s off, fix it first. Everything depends on health. Sort out your diet, physical fitness and health and mental health follows. I’m fitter than all my peers and both fitter and healthier than I was in my 20s. Can run a half marat…

+1 on all of them.

I would add reading. That has helped me a lot to calm down.

Re health: I recently discovered a great blog with in-depth articles about how to lose weight: https://physiqonomics.com

PS: Don't get distracted by the seemingly arrogant profile picture. His content is really good.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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My friend, you are not lost -- you are free. From what I can tell, you have your health, your youth (35 is still young) and you have some savings. If you don't have a mortgage, kids, a spouse, and a job you cannot leave, then you are free. The next step is to see the world. Get a one-way ticket to Chiang Mai and try to stay as long as possible. Learn the language, get a scooter, and talk to people. Live close to the…

Chiang Mai and the rest of Thailand are rather shit at the moment with insane entry requirements. Even if you persevere (and don't get jailed in quarantine hotel) understand that there are no tourists, no expats, no nightlife at the moment and many many failed businesses and ghost town vibes.

"Just learn Thai lol" is not actionable advice either. I say this as someone who has literally done what you suggest in 50+ countries. If he could somehow sneak into New Zealand (not Australia!) I'd strongly recommend that instead at the moment. Buy a van. Hike. So many great treks and places that you usually need to reserve months in advance and far higher likelihood of meaningful interactions.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being an introvert does not remove your monkey brain’s need for social connection. Sure, it means being deliberate about when/how/who, but most people leading a solitary life are not happy.

Thankyou for confirming my point by using the word 'most'. It is rimportant to remember the group of people (however small) who operates outside of what is percieved as 'normal'.

I believe when you read things on the internet, or anywhere, it should be common sense to assume that it does not apply to absolutely everyone/everything in all possible contexts. Use your common sense. It would be unreasonable to force people to preface all words with qualifiers like "most", "usually" and "most likely" - nothing ever applies universally.

That's typical behavior you see on social media Twitter. People say something reasonable, but then someone replies "how wrong!! this does not apply in edge case XYZ!", yeah, obviously. Just ignore it if you believe it doesn't apply to you.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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My advice for you being the same age:

The first thing is regular exercise, hydration, and meditation. If I fail on these at any point my mind goes to shit.

Second, humans are a pack animal. You are right that your peers won’t be in clubs or bars. You aren’t either so why would they be? If you are looking for a romantic partner to start your pack, you can look online. Talk values first is my advice there. For companions who aren’t romantically involved with you, try going to events near you in your part of the industry or in a hobby.

Third, get a hobby. Humans are not bees or ants. We need more than work and the hive. We need to feel passionate and productive. If your main job does not offer these, it is time for a hobby.

I’ve gone to pretty dark places internally, and have at various points in my life had very bad mental health. My mental health really seemed to stabilize in my late 20s. Now, I’m doing better than I ever have and I owe to these things above.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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post #132

I’m in my late 40s. Just gone through 15 years of absolute shit with an ex partner and financial chaos. Decided I’d fix it in 2019. Three important things to concentrate on: 1. Health. If that’s off, fix it first. Everything depends on health. Sort out your diet, physical fitness and health and mental health follows. I’m fitter than all my peers and both fitter and healthier than I was in my 20s. Can run a half marat…

Agree on health. It’s important to bear in mind that health can suddenly go bad, which in turn means that you should make the most of the present rather than thinking “I can postpone doing X,Y,Z” until I’m older.

My father died when he was 59 and had lifestyle-limiting illnesses for the last decade of his life. Bearing this in mind, I went down to a three-day working week aged 56 and then fully retired two years later. I’ve looked after my health but six months ago had an unpredicted episode of Ventricular Fibrillation for genetic rather than lifestyle reasons. I was fitted with an ICD and quickly got back to my physical health but under UK law had to surrender my driving license and I’m now stuck waiting for my application for a new one to work through our bureaucracy.

On balance I wish I’d fully retired slightly earlier.

Coming back to other points that are made here, I found in my last few years at work that the technology was ‘same-old same-old’ and that I found working with talented youngsters (sometimes as a formal mentor) the most rewarding part of my job. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I helped four younger people to go past me on the corporate ladder, and in turn they all looked out for me later on. I was also able to work in an environment where I was viewed as a principal customer-facing techie, rather than having to remain totally corporate. This in fact reduced my career-development options (as I was out on site with the customers rather than being highly visible to my bosses) but I viewed this as a positive.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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I'm 42 and in a similar place. I'm in my third year of law school and about to become a patent attorney -- a 4th career. Hopefully this one brings me happiness and fulfillment. /s

For me, (accidentally) having a kid has catapulted my life forward a bit in terms of feeling comfortable in my shoes.

What I came here to add, is something I'm often thinking about these days: you need to figure out what role money has in your life. How much of it do you want, and why?

Yes, I realize this is a gross subject, but I think, at least in the US, we are not sufficiently honest about this.

I think it's OK to want more of it, or lots of it. Or less of it. Or an average amount. But you need to own that decision and reach a place where you're genuinely comfortable with what you have, or want.

Then you can figure out what you're going to do with your time. Are you going to work towards getting lots of money? Then every act needs to be in service of that goal. Do you just want to be rich at retirement? Do the math -- carefully -- and make sure you will be rich at retirement, and figure out exactly what income you need to achieve that. Are you happy with a modest income and wealth? Huzzah, you can relax.

Once you've admitted to yourself what role money has in your life, then you can go about figuring out your hobbies or workout routine or spirituality, or whatever. But I am increasingly of the opinion that savage honesty about how much money we need to be happy has to come first.

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