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Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

#52

You could try yoga. Take some classes, do it everyday. It makes the body fit and the mind healthy. It also teaches acceptance and non -attachment (to achievements, etc), living in the moment and just breathing. When you feel good about life and yourself, you can attract people and turn your life positively more easily. It's all a bit abstract and different from the rationality we're used to in tech, but maybe worth a…

Thanks for the suggestion. I actually do a kind of yoga (though more focused on long poses and stretching) and it indeed does help. So does working out. I do feel calm and content while doing it, but that feeling does not last very long beyond the practice. Once I get back in front of the screen, it's back to the usual self.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

#53
I think I understand what you're feeling. I'm lucky to have found my way through my period of feeling lost, and have come to a pretty good place as I approach 45 (fathered my first child two years ago, have increasingly good relationships with my partner, family, friends, etc, and have new career/startup opportunities taking shape that are exciting to me). But it's been a long road of feeling very lost and doing deep soul searching to get here.

Some places I'd recommend looking for guidance/inspiration/support:

- Writers/speakers on topics relating to "the meaning crisis"; people like John Vervaeke, Iain McGilchrist, Rafia Morgan and Jonathan Pageau. There are some good video interviews with them and others on the Rebel Wisdom YouTube channel.

- Consider a men's group (assuming you're male; equivalent groups exist for women and other identity groups); I've been in a local chapter of Evryman for the past couple of years, and others I've known have been in The Mankind Project. These kinds of groups can be a great way to connect with other men who are seeking meaning and encouragement to achieve better life outcomes. I've seen some amazing transformations in the men I've known to go through these groups.

- Don't think you're "just depressed". While of course it's possible you could have a clinical condition, and it's worth exploring that and seeking treatment if need be, don't let people tell you that feeling lost in this world is merely a sign of depression. It can be a very healthy reaction to notice that the world is pretty messed up and to feel that there must be a way to find a more fulfilling life path.

Also, feel free to contact me (email address in profile). I'm thinking about starting a new kind of community for people who are looking to heal and grow.

All the best to you.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

#55

Man, this is the WORST place to ask for advice. A quick scan of the suggestions: * Have you tried medicating these feelings away? * Have you tried drugs? * Get on a plane! Travel and "find yourself!" * You have money, why aren't you happy? * How about you do everything again that brought you to this place... But in a different career field? About the only real suggestion here is to exercise, find a hobby, or start a…

I'm not sure what your background with therapy is, but, it's certainly not an opiate. In fact a good therapist will help out and encourage one to confront one's problems directly.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

#58
No relationships, moved multiple times, and never stayed at a job for long. Sounds like a recipe for having no roots or committed friendships/community as you chased the cornucopia of worldly experiences… that has now dried up and been found wanting.

You’ve got plenty of time. What you need is connections. Who/what/how is up to you, and talking to an understanding person about it (parents, lifelong friend, pastor, therapist) would probably help more than us all here.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

#59

Might be wrong but this sounds more like depression to me than aging. I've had a few bad ~6 month bouts of this and always the strongest symptom was a total lack of interest in things that I know I used to enjoy very much. It seems to happen to me once every 5 years or so (I'm 49). Personally, drugs and CBT never helped me with these. They might help you. I mostly just put my head down and kept coding for work and di…

> Personally, drugs and CBT never helped me with these. Can I ask what medication/drugs were you given (or gave to yourself) when you went through these periods?

I had one bout of this (by far the worst) in like 2003. I think I tried every SSRI out there at the time plus lithium plus a bunch of stuff that like 3 different psychiatrists prescribed over a year. I would try something for like 2-6 weeks and then try another. I honestly don't remember the full list. None of it helped me.

SSRIs in particular did not work well for me because they really interfered with my natural sleep cycle and this did not go away after 6 weeks as the doctors hoped. I would just bolt awake sweating after like 3 hours of sleep which made things much, much worse.

I never tried any illegal drugs. I've read good reports about psychadelics in some cases. But I've never tried anything like that.

I did try benzodiazapines during my last bout like 3 years ago. They were wonderful at first. Klonopin made me feel so relaxed somehow that it fixed everything else. I slept great and was interested in everything again. I thought I'd found the fix. But then it stopped working. They recommended increasing my dose. But I read horror stories about what happens there (see Jordan Peterson saga). So I tapered off. It was awful. I would wake up after 2 hours having a panic attack and not be able to get back to sleep. It took like an extra 3 months after tapering off until I was back to just regular depressed :). Would not recommend these! Read the benzo recovery reddit.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

#60

> I am single and haven't had a serious relationship for many years now. Get married, start a family. Stop trying to find meaning in tech or alcohol or money. Good luck.

Get married? I dunno bout that. Kiss half your wealth goodbye. Children? You can be jailed for not paying child support on imputed income. That's imaginary money you don't have.
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