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Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by estaseuropano »

captn3m0 wrote: post #75
Kerrick wrote: post #9

I've been using Migadu ever since switching away from Google Apps, and I've been happy with their service and pricing.

Been using Migadu for half a decade now. Only catch is that there isn't a contact/calendar service. I've been told it's in in the works multiple times over the years, and I'll welcome it when it does release, but it might be a dealbreaker for some workplaces.

They have now implemented caldav and carddav so you can have your calendar and contacts linked to your email, but all the typical comfort of sending invites or confirming presence is still lacking.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by estaseuropano »

goingindi wrote: post #78

Regarding migadu, which I am now looking at, what verification have you who’ve selected it done for this statement “ Your emails are your own business. We have no interest in them. We do not access1, analyse2, scan or share any user data.” from their site?

As emails are not encrypted in transit or storage - none. I know that their business is email, not ads, and that I'm the customer, not the product.

If you have confidential emails best to encrypt them before sending, but that is true for anynhosted service.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by estaseuropano »

tazjin wrote: post #86

Yandex 360 is great and also has calendar support etc. There are a few things that make moving your calendar away from Google pretty hard. If a Google account invites you, the invite still lands in your old calendar for example - even if that's not where your domains MX records point. Lots of third-party software also has mostly Google-specific integrations. Moving away from them is hard, but overall probably worth i…

Honestly, I can't understand why anyone would use yandex. Any of the many stories of the Russian internet will tell you how easy it is for anyone to buy your data from Russian services. I haven't seen specific stories on yandex but for peace of mind I need my email with a provider in a jurisdiction with functional political and legal system.

Somewhat similar with data acces rights for the US secret services - I can't imagine anyone e.g. working for Airbus or Shell or even HSBC to feel comfortable using US services.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by toastercat »

Kerrick wrote: post #9

I've been using Migadu ever since switching away from Google Apps, and I've been happy with their service and pricing.

Another Migadu user here. They've been slow with the rollout for new features (the new alps webmail was promised over a year ago...) but overall, can't complain for the price I'm paying for my two domains (I'm on the $19/year plan).

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by massysett »

discardedrefuse wrote: post #108
fy20 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does FastMail handle tags? I tried Zoho but it's pretty terrible compared to how Gmail works. What I'd like is: 1) To be able to assign tags based on rules 2) To be able to view those tags in IMAP clients (Gmail exposes labels as IMAP folders) 3) To be able to Archive mail so they are no longer in the Inbox, but so the tag remains (in Gmail, 'Inbox' is just a tag that is removed when you Archive mail) Zoho fails…

FastMail doesn't have tags. What it does have? Let me copy/paste my comment from another thread: They have subdomain addressing, which is kind of like plus addressing, but better (not all places let you sign up with plus addressing). I've got my own domain, for example: mydomain.com. So my fastmail email address is depingus@mydomain.com. But with subdomain addressing, I can sign up for services with unique email addr…

Fastmail now has labels.

https://fastmail.blog/productivity/fastmail-labels/

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by karmajunkie »

buro9 wrote: post #39

Fastmail I've just moved, and it's great. Import is fantastic (I migrated 14GB of email) and I've used Dmarcian to monitor and confirm everything is perfect on the SPF, DKIM front. Spam initially got through, but once trained it's been flawless I've personally abandoned labels for folders as I used barely 10 labels in Gmail and seldom added more than one, but they do support labels if you want that. It's great for wi…

how good is their spam filtering? it’s been years since i had to worry about it but i really have no desire to go back to something hacked together.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by pembrook »

modeless wrote: post #54

You can still use the Gmail UI with a custom domain for free. All you need is a mail server. Once it's set up, configure a free Gmail account to fetch your email with IMAP and send from your domain with SMTP. Now you own your email but still get the Gmail UI as long as you want to use it, for free, with the option to use any other client you want as well.

Why would you want to use the Gmail UI though?

I’ve found it to be one of the slowest, most bloated and resource-heavy web apps I use.

It’s nothing like the Gmail of 10+ years ago when Google actually cared about the product.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by jnieminen »

lewisl9029 wrote: post #114
mdasen wrote: post #22

Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everything to a new service (if that service won't let you transfer it themselves). I'm using iCloud+ from Apple. It's cheap at $1/mo for 50GB of space and lets me have my custom domains. $3/mo will get you family sharing and 200GB of space (if you want multiple acco…

An alternative to Microsoft 365 if you don't need anything other than email hosting is their Exchange Online plan, which is $4/month: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/exchange/excha... This is what I ended up switching to and it's been working fine so far. I learned from this debacle that tight-coupling email to any other service is a liability, so email-only is actually a feature for me. No GoDaddy requ…

I would spent a little more and the the Business Basic plan. I think it is quite a good deal.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-365/business/micro...

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