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Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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I've been using Migadu ever since switching away from Google Apps, and I've been happy with their service and pricing.

Also moved to Migadu after hearing about Google shutting down the "legacy" accounts.

Moved 5 domains with wildcard support and 80k emails over and been going great (and only $20 a year for that).

I used imapsync (free / opensource) to move the emails from Google to Migadu.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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I will keep the free version of "google cloud identity" so I kan keep my google account and things connected to it; things like drive documents, YouTube account, app purchases, and so on. But then I intend to move my email domain to iCloud.

How do you do this? I’m planning to keep my Gmail account and pay for it, but my son does not need the mail address but wants to keep his YouTube account.

https://admin.google.com/ac/billing/catalog

Enable "Cloud Identity Free" then just go to his user in the admin panel and remove the users "Google Workspace" license.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does iCloud+ support catch all on custom domains now? I really like this about Google but would also be glad to go elsewhere

No they don’t and it’s a maximum of three email addresses per user. Looking at it they don’t allow for “groups” or aliases either. It feels years behind.

It has only just been rolled out. I think it’s still early days.

I’m using it for my domain fine but that has only two users on it.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 for iCloud+. I got the 200 to give my cousin a way to backup her pictures (around 30 GB, and it annoyed me she wasn't backing them up) The custom domain was nice, and I moved all of them to iCloud+.

You might want to read this reddit post about iCloud files disappearing. https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/sixyvx/warning_files...

Just a heads up here:

iCloud / OneDrive / Google Drive / DropBox are not a backup solution despite the vendors promoting it.

They are there only for convenience.

I have experienced file loss on OneDrive. I am now using iCloud and have had no file loss whatsoever. I regularly diff my offline backup with iCloud Drive contents mirrored to my mac.

Also to note: About 50% of the stories you hear are users being morons. My sister lost some files. She deleted them after fat fingering something and blamed the cloud vendor (Google). It happens.

Make sure you back up stuff separately and fully offline. You’re just as fucked if someone rips off your account.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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HN is a hard place for people who like Microsoft but I'll tell you that a single user Office 365 Business Essentials subscription is a great deal. Along with e-mail you get a terabyte of Sharepoint (OneDrive) storage, online versions of office apps, and Teams. $5/mo. There's an IMAP migration tool. Just turn on IMAP on your Gmail account if it's not already enabled and let the O365/Exchange wizard suck all the e-mail…

And Exchange online is a fully featured mail server. Fancy adding 50 aliases, go ahead. Fancy adding 50 domains, go ahead. Fancy adding your family, that too. Groups, distribution lists etc. all included.

Plus you can set up Azure AD and use the SSO tools!

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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HN is a hard place for people who like Microsoft but I'll tell you that a single user Office 365 Business Essentials subscription is a great deal. Along with e-mail you get a terabyte of Sharepoint (OneDrive) storage, online versions of office apps, and Teams. $5/mo. There's an IMAP migration tool. Just turn on IMAP on your Gmail account if it's not already enabled and let the O365/Exchange wizard suck all the e-mail…

I've been eyeing this as well but it looks like neither DMARC or DKIM is supported on the family plan. Anyone know a way around that issue?

Yes, use an office 365 business essentials subscription instead. You now get a fully featured online mail server

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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HN is a hard place for people who like Microsoft but I'll tell you that a single user Office 365 Business Essentials subscription is a great deal. Along with e-mail you get a terabyte of Sharepoint (OneDrive) storage, online versions of office apps, and Teams. $5/mo. There's an IMAP migration tool. Just turn on IMAP on your Gmail account if it's not already enabled and let the O365/Exchange wizard suck all the e-mail…

I’ve been considering this, but how good is the spam filtering included with this plan? Do people often end up bolting on 3rd-party spam filters in front of Business Essentials?

I use it at work and the default spam filtering is fine

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everything to a new service (if that service won't let you transfer it themselves). I'm using iCloud+ from Apple. It's cheap at $1/mo for 50GB of space and lets me have my custom domains. $3/mo will get you family sharing and 200GB of space (if you want multiple acco…

+1 for iCloud+. I moved 3 business/family domains and shutdown my G Suite legacy account with no issues, and no extra cost (already paying for iCloud). Can't beat $0.99/mo for 50GB shared on up to 6 accounts.

Just migrated to iCloud with custom domain.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Google is not just email. It's the email client. It's the calendar. It's the calendar integration with email. How do you replace those?

I don't mind losing out on bundled document editing apps, etc. by not giving my email money to Google or Microsoft, but I do wish the smaller providers saw email and calendars as two sides of the same service as I do. I use Migadu for email, but their calendar offering is still in beta and very primitive. So I use Fruux, to support a small open source company. But i've had support messages completely ignored by Fruux and the cost of paying for 2 micro services feels disproportionately expensive.
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