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Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by hn_version_0023 »

prirun wrote: post #84
hn_version_0023 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I like about Fastmail is the ability to serve static web content directly from the “Files” section of their apps/website. Since they already manage the domain for email, spinning up static sites at subdomains is really easy and really nice.

I almost did this, but they don't have rsync access to the Files space. It's really nice with a static site being able to use rsync to just update the changed files.

I use ncftp from a CI/CD job to push my files to Fastmail; it has a sync option

Edit: I’m pretty sure the sync options are part of the put command

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by mkdirp »

15characterslon wrote: post #65
moedersmooiste wrote: post #26

Also went looking for an alternative and moved everyting to mailbox.org...

Be aware that Mailbox.org allows any user to send emails as ("from") any other user via SMTP and these emails will look legit since they pass SPF and DKIM checks. Many consider this a security issue. There was a quite lengthy discussion about this in their forum but they deleted it since. They refused to fix it. Archive.org still has it. Content is in German (sorry): https://web.archive.org/web/20210123192856/https:/…

I did not know this, I moved to mailbox.org in December.

Surely they'll only allow that if they pass the auth and the domain belongs to your account?

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by lbotos »

pkulak wrote: post #23
dgavrilov wrote: post #18

https://mxroute.com/

Wow, looks pretty good. Never heard of those guys. Are they new?

I joined MXRoute at a suggestion in on hackernews and I'm... probably gonna be moving away when my year is up.

Two issues I had:

1. 3 times my emails to gmail will be "silently delivered" in that they don't bounce but they don't land in the inbox. I had it happen to me (sending to my test gmail), me sending to a friend, and me sending to a business. It's a gmail problem, but this never happened when I was on fastmail.

2. Jarland is a solid admin, but he's "old school". Sometimes he'll blanket ban incoming mail, and you might miss messages. For example, I was trying to sign up for mailjet and I wasn't getting the sign up email. When I opened a ticket, it was because MXroute was seeing "a bunch of spam from that provider" so it was blocked. I have no clue if I missed any emails from sellers/senders that use the service during that time...

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by d000001 »

znpy wrote: post #31
mdasen wrote: post #22

Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everything to a new service (if that service won't let you transfer it themselves). I'm using iCloud+ from Apple. It's cheap at $1/mo for 50GB of space and lets me have my custom domains. $3/mo will get you family sharing and 200GB of space (if you want multiple acco…

> One issue is that the domain needs to be with Go Daddy Absolute dealbreaker. There's no real reason why I can't just point my MX at them, do the additional configuration[*] and have them host my mail. Any explaination would be pure (and utter) BS. [*] being setting spf, dkim records and stuff

This is comparing o365 business and the personal offering.

The personal/home offering requires godaddy for the domain.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by bertman »

lbotos wrote: post #93
pkulak wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, looks pretty good. Never heard of those guys. Are they new?

I joined MXRoute at a suggestion in on hackernews and I'm... probably gonna be moving away when my year is up. Two issues I had: 1. 3 times my emails to gmail will be "silently delivered" in that they don't bounce but they don't land in the inbox. I had it happen to me (sending to my test gmail), me sending to a friend, and me sending to a business. It's a gmail problem, but this never happened when I was on fastmail…

Re. 2.: https://accounts.mxroute.com/index.php?/news/view/18/don--03...

Looks like you were not the only one.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by mazugrin2 »

BoumTAC wrote: post #14

I would recommend hey.com

I'm switching away from hey.com at the end of my term. It's not a bad service, but the UI is absolutely inflexible. The absolute worst feature for me is that the sorting of your inbox (I guess I mean "Imbox") is based the time you first accessed the email. There's no straightforward way to sort by the date the email was actually sent. I asked the support group if there was ever going to be an ability to sort by anything other than the quirky default sorting they've chosen but my query received no response.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by rasulkireev »

I love Zoho Mail.

I pay $12/year and can have as many emails as I want. For example, I have set up an email for my personal domain, and 3 of my projects. It is very easy to do with their docs.

You could stop there, but I redirect all those email to my GMail address (I just prefer Gmail UI). Then I set up labels for each email and now I have 5 different email in my GMail Account.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by mxrlkn »

mdasen wrote: post #22

Google Takeout will export all your mail in mbox format which is easily handled by mail programs like Apple Mail and Thunderbird and should let you sync everything to a new service (if that service won't let you transfer it themselves). I'm using iCloud+ from Apple. It's cheap at $1/mo for 50GB of space and lets me have my custom domains. $3/mo will get you family sharing and 200GB of space (if you want multiple acco…

I just switched to iCloud as well, but I want all my email forwarded to my private gmail account. One thing to be aware of with iCloud is that it doesn't do ARC, so your forwarded emails will fail on SPF. I instead use cloudflare's email forwarding for incoming email, which does support ARC, and then iCloud for outgoing. Works well so far.

Re: Ask HN: Best hosted alternative to Google Workspace for email?

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Post by rasulkireev »

fy20 wrote: post #71
troydavis wrote: post #3

This question comes up a couple times every month. FastMail always comes up as a recommendation, so if you search comments for FastMail, you’ll find every past thread (and relatively few false positives): https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru... Example from a week ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30128198

How does FastMail handle tags? I tried Zoho but it's pretty terrible compared to how Gmail works. What I'd like is: 1) To be able to assign tags based on rules 2) To be able to view those tags in IMAP clients (Gmail exposes labels as IMAP folders) 3) To be able to Archive mail so they are no longer in the Inbox, but so the tag remains (in Gmail, 'Inbox' is just a tag that is removed when you Archive mail) Zoho fails…

I love Zoho for what they offer for $12/year. I agree that UI is better on Gmail, which is why I redirect all email to my GMail Dashboard.
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