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Re: Ask HN: Software you hate but can't replace?

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Post by drcongo »

JCWasmx86 wrote: post #7

MS Teams: What makes it bad: First of all, it uses Electron, thus it is laggy and wastes too much resources. Maybe it is just a pet peeve of mine, but I hate , if an application does not look native on my GNOME Desktop and does not follow any HIG. Another factor is the proprietary nature of MS Teams. If it was open, there would probably be some other client/some way to have a real native client. My preferred alternat…

My kids have been trying to use Teams this last week while isolating at home with covid. It's easily the worst software I've ever had the misfortune to use. The UI is an absolute mess and none of it makes any sense, there's multiple locations where we have to try to find files. I have twins, so they're in the same year but in different classes - only one of them has a working login so both had to log in as her on different laptops and then they weren't able to join different meetings. It has no redeeming features whatsoever.

Re: Ask HN: Software you hate but can't replace?

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Post by slig »

digianarchist wrote: post #11

Zoom. Sick of this app hijacking the audio channel of my Bose headphones when I'm not in a call.

I'm studying guitar remotely and my teacher recorded a small bit of the call so that I can review later. He was playing and talking, I was completely quiet and not moving. Zoom decided to record my camera with his sound. He said that it was like that for all his students that day and couldn't figure out why.

Re: Ask HN: Software you hate but can't replace?

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Post by DangitBobby »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #8

Gchat, gdocs, gsheet, gmeet. These are the worst apps of their respective categories, ever to exist. But I am helpless, because I've to use what my company has bought. The number one reason why they're bad is that they are not native apps. They need a tab in the browser, or a fake browser window. The second reason they're bad is because Google does not care about the user experience. Each of these is probably assigne…

Agree on Google Chat, which we use at work because it's free with our GSuite (workspaces now?), is HIPAA compliant, it keeps all chats forever without extra cost, and... That's it. Slack is better in basically every way, but we can't justify the expense of paying to reach feature parity, especially the HIPAA part.

Disagree heavily on docs, sheets, and meet. Meet is a bit wonky in Firefox but I wouldn't trade it for any of the other options we've tried. I consider docs, sheets, and drive to be best-in-class for what we use them for, which is pretty much always collaborative.

Re: Ask HN: Software you hate but can't replace?

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Post by drcongo »

PeterisP wrote: post #34
JCWasmx86 wrote: post #7

MS Teams: What makes it bad: First of all, it uses Electron, thus it is laggy and wastes too much resources. Maybe it is just a pet peeve of mine, but I hate , if an application does not look native on my GNOME Desktop and does not follow any HIG. Another factor is the proprietary nature of MS Teams. If it was open, there would probably be some other client/some way to have a real native client. My preferred alternat…

Teams is also horrible if you are in multiple organizations, as it simply fails to consider that you might want to easily switch between two different Teams meetings with different authentication, like it's trivial to do with e.g. Slack.

Ha, you posted this while I typing the exact same complaint.

Re: Ask HN: Software you hate but can't replace?

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Post by vsgzusnex »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #8

Gchat, gdocs, gsheet, gmeet. These are the worst apps of their respective categories, ever to exist. But I am helpless, because I've to use what my company has bought. The number one reason why they're bad is that they are not native apps. They need a tab in the browser, or a fake browser window. The second reason they're bad is because Google does not care about the user experience. Each of these is probably assigne…

Gdocs doesn't go without it's issues. Switching from GSuite to Office365 made me want to rip out my eye balls. The online version of word is awful comparatively and depending on always having an installation of word doesn't work in all contexts.

Gsuite in general is accessible and works well for Collab.

And of course Teams is on a whole different dimension of pain.

Re: Ask HN: Software you hate but can't replace?

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Post by stevesimmons »

JCWasmx86 wrote: post #7

MS Teams: What makes it bad: First of all, it uses Electron, thus it is laggy and wastes too much resources. Maybe it is just a pet peeve of mine, but I hate , if an application does not look native on my GNOME Desktop and does not follow any HIG. Another factor is the proprietary nature of MS Teams. If it was open, there would probably be some other client/some way to have a real native client. My preferred alternat…

I came on here to say "Teams", and here it is, right at the top.

Try doing a video call with 4 computers. Rather than the oh-so-obvious 1/4 of a screen each, one person gets half, two people get quarters, and you're in a tiny square in the bottom corner.

Even more comical is when one of the participants in using a laptop with two people in front of the camera. Teams will often centre the image, clip the sides, chop off both people, and show the other participants just the empty space between them.

How on earth did this pass QA, or any kind of design review?

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