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Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by Talanes »

endisneigh wrote: post #263
kbelder wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's never been the definition. The fold is the bottom of the viewport on initial load, meaning nothing below the fold is viewable without scrolling. This is an analog to the fold in a newspaper, hiding anything below it. It seems like most of the claims you've made in the this thread are false.

The issue here is that I’m talking about literally the line break between ads and regular results. There are multiple folds - search widgets, instant results, etc.

Making up your own definition and then getting angry when other people are not using it is certainly an interesting way to debate.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by moron4hire »

jordigh wrote: post #246
function_seven wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest feature request: A check box that says, "[ ] I'm not buying anything" I don't know how technically hard this would be to implement. Or what business model will resist adding it. I just know that most of my web searches are NOT me trying to buy stuff. They're usually looking up information. Like, how does the load sensing algorithm work on my LG washer? No chance I'll ever find out by searching the web. Onl…

> My biggest feature request: A check box that says, "[ ] I'm not buying anything" The primary purpose of ads isn't to get you to buy something. It's to plant a brand in your brain so that next time you do want to buy something, you'll think of the brand. Ads are very good psychological manipulation.

If we are to believe advertisers are so great at their jobs, why can't they produce any meaningful metrics that don't commit egregious sins of statistical analysis?

Here's a thing that I am absolutely convinced happens. Ad network tracks purchases. Ad network track ad impressions. Ad network correlates the two and finds that 90% of people who saw the ad also bought the product. But they conveniently "forgot" to check if the ad impression was before or after the purchase.

I'm confident this is happening because the only times I see ads for anything I'd be interested in buying is after I've already bought the damn thing.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by function_seven »

hedora wrote: post #285
function_seven wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest feature request: A check box that says, "[ ] I'm not buying anything" I don't know how technically hard this would be to implement. Or what business model will resist adding it. I just know that most of my web searches are NOT me trying to buy stuff. They're usually looking up information. Like, how does the load sensing algorithm work on my LG washer? No chance I'll ever find out by searching the web. Onl…

This is the summary of the second hit on Duck Duck Go (the first hit is a troubleshooting article about the feature): > A built-in load sensor automatically detects the laundry load and a microprocessor optimizes washing conditions such as ideal WATER LEVEL and washing time. Turbo drum washing (option) When "Punch + 3" washing wings turn, the washing tub turns in the opposite direction. I accidentally searched for th…

Appreciate the effort, but my example was for clothes load sensing (what it does before determine the water required.)

I've watched it at work and as best as I can tell, it takes inertial mass readings by wiggling the drum using a specified current, and measuring how far the drum oscillates. Or maybe it predetermines the amplitude and measures the power required?

I'm just guessing. What I want to find out: is either of my guesses close? Is there something else I'm not seeing? Why does it do this 4 times in a row? (In between "wiggles" it will rotate the drum a few times to—my guess—redistribute the load and get an average from the four readings.

Maybe its rose-tinted glasses looking at the web of yesterday, but I have this sneaking suspicion some nerd out there has an entire website devoted to arcane appliance details like this. I would very much like to find and bookmark that site!

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by benlivengood »

RosanaAnaDana wrote: post #298

I'm just gonna throw this out there as I'm noticing it more and more at this point since switching languages. What the actual F has happened to google search results for programming issues? I used to be able to google a question and get, more or less, a right answer from a forum or stack overflow. Recently, many coding tutorial websites have clearly figured out how to hack googles pageranks and now instead of one 'ri…

Python has been the worst for me; it's almost impossible to find the official documentation for modules/functions.

Defining search aliases or custom search engines in the browser with URLs like '''https://www.google.com/search?q=site:docs.python.org+%s''' is probably the reasonable thing to do.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by gtirloni »

jdrc wrote: post #160

it s really a mess. Searching for 'viper' brings up 'Viber' as the first result, the rest is cars except for a link to 'viperidae'. It's a goddamn snake, google

Just add another word "viper snake" and the problem is solved. I don't see the problem. You wouldn't shout "viper" at a random person and expect them to correctly guess you're talking about a snake at first guess.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by _aavaa_ »

RosanaAnaDana wrote: post #298

I'm just gonna throw this out there as I'm noticing it more and more at this point since switching languages. What the actual F has happened to google search results for programming issues? I used to be able to google a question and get, more or less, a right answer from a forum or stack overflow. Recently, many coding tutorial websites have clearly figured out how to hack googles pageranks and now instead of one 'ri…

This has been a game changer for me. I got it for this very reason

https://iorate.github.io/ublacklist/docs

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by Talanes »

bllguo wrote: post #161
olyjohn wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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do you realize how disgusting it is to be okay with twisting the truth as long as it fits your agenda? somehow people are actually receptive to arguments like yours, it boggles the mind. criticize when there is something to criticize, in Google's case this is not hard. viewing the world in black and white is the height of immaturity

"Twisting the truth" in this case is using a term that literally everybody except for one deliberate contrarian understands to mean the same thing.

A good faith argument shouldn't come down to semantics. Once you realize that the other side isn't using a term in the way you think it should be used, you can either stop the debate to argue the semantics, or accept their definition as the terms for the debate.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Post by ssss11 »

function_seven wrote: post #155
ssss11 wrote: post #2

Yeah I’ve noticed this too. But also the rest of the front page is often either seo spam (like those Pinterest links which catch whatever search term you’ve used) or shopping sites. I’ve found google search to be increasingly hostile to its customers. I guess we’re not the customers. Use duckduckgo or something else.

My biggest feature request: A check box that says, "[ ] I'm not buying anything" I don't know how technically hard this would be to implement. Or what business model will resist adding it. I just know that most of my web searches are NOT me trying to buy stuff. They're usually looking up information. Like, how does the load sensing algorithm work on my LG washer? No chance I'll ever find out by searching the web. Onl…

But the “I’m not buying anything” box would never be implemented by Google because their whole existence is based on tracking us to find out they or their real customers can extract every last dollar from us. It’s all surveillance ad based…

Hopefully DDG and others don’t turn into that tho

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