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Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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Firefox + Ublock & Privacy Badger, on desktop and mobile. I also use Blokada on Android. This combination stops most ads, and if a few sneak through it is easy to create a custom rule. While I still find Google useful, especially Google Scholar, I've primarily moved to DuckDuckGo for most casual searches.

Do you find a advantage of privacy badger vs blocking all third party cookies? I just dump my full cache everytime I close Firefox.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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So what if it is cropped, is the amount of ads shown in the screenshot with no actual search results acceptable to you? Does the fact OP has a smaller or larger resolution than you change your mind?

Literally the fifth result is what they were looking for. they crop that out and complain on twitter. so yes, it's acceptable. use ad-block if it's not to you.

So we disagree. Showing me 4 ads before seeing something that is also a thinly veiled ad is not acceptable.

Running other software to make search usable is also not acceptable.

Combined with your misinformation spread in other threads of this topic, your actions appear to be shilling.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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It would be nice if this worked, but in Google's defense, this is an odd combination of an exact search phrase of common words and then a couple categorical terms that don't have to actually appear on the page. If you help it by searching for just the quoted phrase you want without the additional terms it puts the result you want both as the top result and in a pullout at the top of the page: https://www.google.com/s…

A simple keyword search wouldn't get so confused.

Or if they assumed the order was meaningful, which they apparently don't.

They only hire the best of the best!

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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For some searches the results don't include my search terms. They just go silently straight to the "did you mean?" results.

this is such an infuriating user experience. no, I did not mean, that’s why I typed it, damn it! I think they’ve even started ignoring my quoted search terms!

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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> I, frankly, suspect you're a troll at this point. It's sad how any resistance and the resistor must be a troll. Even in your own video without adblock the ads display sparingly. If you count the instance you'll see that after reduction (meaning you take the average distance from the first link) the "correct" link is probably #3 or #2.

You have been caught lying, arguing, and moving the goal posts. Being accused of being a shill is a natural progression.

You have done nothing to clear up misinformation, argue in good faith, or concede a disproven claim. All these are required for arguments in good faith.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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post #255

For some searches the results don't include my search terms. They just go silently straight to the "did you mean?" results.

this is such an infuriating user experience. no, I did not mean, that’s why I typed it, damn it! I think they’ve even started ignoring my quoted search terms!

They are getting to be so terrible, what kind of bureaucracy motivates them to throw away their crown jewel? Is Adwords the only self-made product they have that actually works anymore? Maybe their business model is only Adwords and selling surveillance data, and our understanding simply hasn't caught up to that fact yet.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if this worked, but in Google's defense, this is an odd combination of an exact search phrase of common words and then a couple categorical terms that don't have to actually appear on the page. If you help it by searching for just the quoted phrase you want without the additional terms it puts the result you want both as the top result and in a pullout at the top of the page: https://www.google.com/s…

A simple keyword search wouldn't get so confused.

I'm going to point to this from yesterday

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30185229

It's easy to judge but AFAIK if they prioritize order it's possible more searches come up with bad results than good. That doesn't mean they shouldn't try to do better but we, or a least I, really have no idea which is better, on average, order dependent or order independent.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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How much is pagerank involved in google searches these days? I wonder, if they were to revert to an early version of it, would searches improve? Or did they move away / update / augment it to prevent seo abuse?

Not much for head terms and even at the longtail, today. I've long thought rolling out googs algo from 2010 and getting away from all the prediction/neural network rewriting would be a good move for a new search engine.

Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads

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They are usually search result pages with the keyword in the url parameter, and they link to those search results elsewhere on their site for Google to find

But they show up in the cached google search preview as well. I search for something that doesn't exist, and you get 5 "shopping" sites that have faked URLs and faked product entries for the non-existant product. Like you see in the cached textlines: "Buy reptilecandy here, low prices!!" or something, and the URL to the site seems legit, trustedstore.com/reptilecandy/ but if you click on it you just get to the shop t…

Have you found a site that sells reptile candy? I’ve been searching forever. Failing to find it had been my greatest regret.
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