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For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
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Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
#192The Facebook stock debacle from yesterday makes me think that maybe there is a limit to how user-hostile a tech giant can be before it really starts to hurt their bottom line. For a while it seemed like companies like FB had captured enough of the market that they seemed impervious to backlash from their many controversies, too big to fail in a way. It’s too early to tell if this is the beginning of FB’s demise, but…
>Instead you can go to TikTok where you will find mostly amusing and at times informative content. TikTok has by far the best recommender system I have ever tried. After an hour of use the system had correctly narrowed down my interests of exoplanets, space exploration, technology, and startups. However that also means TikTok is the most hypertuned echochamber. I hope people don't get their political views from TikTo…
Your intuition is correct. According to [1] it can take 2 hours of browsing and interacting with transphobic content to get straight into neo-nazi content. Many people don't ever see such videos, and don't think it's on the platform - it does become a very hypertuned hyperfocused echo chamber.
[0] https://www.mediamatters.org/tiktok/tiktoks-algorithm-leads-...
Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, my bad - though you can use many of the same block lists, iOS only has a concept of content blockers, so you have to use DNS Cloak with a content blocker. Or you can use Brave on iOS which has adblock.
Or you can run pihole and get DNS-level blocking for your entire network with no extensions/config on individual devices. Also with pihole, you almost never run into the dreaded “it looks like you’re using ad block!”.
Can you also setup iOS to tunnel home so as to leverage your pihole DNS on mobile?
Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
#194Many people here suggests other services, including services you can pay for to bash Google. The reality is that Google offered Google Contributor and now offers YouTube premium but most people prefer free content with ads. And that is fine. I find very surprising the HN folks complaining about the tech companies making ads-based money for their services when they are not willing to pay for the ad-free version. It is…
> Ad blockers are piracy and kill jobs
{{citation needed}}
Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, my bad - though you can use many of the same block lists, iOS only has a concept of content blockers, so you have to use DNS Cloak with a content blocker. Or you can use Brave on iOS which has adblock.
Or you can run pihole and get DNS-level blocking for your entire network with no extensions/config on individual devices. Also with pihole, you almost never run into the dreaded “it looks like you’re using ad block!”.
As a pihole alternative, I highly recommend using dnscrypt-proxy. It can provide the same system/network level DNS ad blocking but it also ensures all your outgoing queries are encrypted and spread across different resolvers so no one can use your DNS activity to profile you. I also find the blocking/forwarding rules are more powerful than pihole’s.
That said, pihole or any DNS level blocking is pretty weak compared to what uBlock Origin and provide. Like a parent commenter said, it doesn’t prevent you from seeing the google ads, it just keeps the links from working. Most big sites know not to make their ads so easily blocked.
Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
#196Yeah I’ve noticed this too. But also the rest of the front page is often either seo spam (like those Pinterest links which catch whatever search term you’ve used) or shopping sites. I’ve found google search to be increasingly hostile to its customers. I guess we’re not the customers. Use duckduckgo or something else.
My biggest feature request: A check box that says, "[ ] I'm not buying anything" I don't know how technically hard this would be to implement. Or what business model will resist adding it. I just know that most of my web searches are NOT me trying to buy stuff. They're usually looking up information. Like, how does the load sensing algorithm work on my LG washer? No chance I'll ever find out by searching the web. Onl…
Google is incentivised by you relying on them instead of a competitor, shortly followed by page loads. Giving you what you want immediately, particularly when they know that you know what your searching for is a niche interest, isn’t in their best interests.
Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or you can run pihole and get DNS-level blocking for your entire network with no extensions/config on individual devices. Also with pihole, you almost never run into the dreaded “it looks like you’re using ad block!”.
Can you also setup iOS to tunnel home so as to leverage your pihole DNS on mobile?
You could send your DNS queries over a VPN to your home network... but that’s pretty roundabout and will have a big performance hit. Instead you can just run a pihole-like DNS resolver on iOS directly. I like DNSCloak, which just runs dnscrypt-proxy under the hood.
Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
#198Yeah I’ve noticed this too. But also the rest of the front page is often either seo spam (like those Pinterest links which catch whatever search term you’ve used) or shopping sites. I’ve found google search to be increasingly hostile to its customers. I guess we’re not the customers. Use duckduckgo or something else.
> Use duckduckgo or something else.
Duckduckgo hasn't been any better for me lately. It seems like search as a whole is failing to respond to the latest round of SEO tricks. It takes a lot more work to find what I'm actually looking for, regardless of which engine I use.
Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
#199Yeah I’ve noticed this too. But also the rest of the front page is often either seo spam (like those Pinterest links which catch whatever search term you’ve used) or shopping sites. I’ve found google search to be increasingly hostile to its customers. I guess we’re not the customers. Use duckduckgo or something else.
> But also the rest of the front page is often either seo spam (like those Pinterest links which catch whatever search term you’ve used) or shopping sites.
Hey now, SEO spam is often packed to the brim with high revenue ads.
Re: For some searches the whole screen on Google is now ads
#200Yeah I’ve noticed this too. But also the rest of the front page is often either seo spam (like those Pinterest links which catch whatever search term you’ve used) or shopping sites. I’ve found google search to be increasingly hostile to its customers. I guess we’re not the customers. Use duckduckgo or something else.
You're not duckduckgo's customer either (their primary revenue source is keyword based advertising), or the customer of anything else you don't pay for. The only one I know of that at least plans to have a simple two-way relationship with search users as their customers is Kagi. Currently it's in free beta with a waitlist (took a week for me). When they go live they intend it to be a paid, subscription service with n…
I’d pay a lot of money for 2012 era-ish Google search…
Unfortunately, I’m sure they rake in magnitudes more cash from ads than they ever would from subscriptions.