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The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

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Re: The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

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I don't see how this really works any more because a Big Mac is different in different countries. It's not an "identical" product being compared. You can use McDonald's own local nutrition calculators to confirm this. A Big Mac in the US is 550 calories, yet 508 calories in the UK (522 in Russia and a mere 498 in Switzerland, for comparison). Is it factored into the index that British fast food fans are getting 7.6%…

From actually reading the article:

  Burgernomics was never intended as a precise gauge of currency misalignment,
  merely a tool to make exchange-rate theory more digestible. Yet the Big Mac
  index has become a global standard, included in several economic textbooks
  and the subject of dozens of academic studies. For those who take their fast
  food more seriously, we also calculate a gourmet version of the index.

Re: The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

#62

Thought it was going to be this one, which I enjoy using a lot and find useful for getting the big picture. https://inflationchart.com/cpi-in-bigmac https://inflationchart.com/spx-in-bigmac In the 70s you could work minimum wage for an hour and afford three Big Macs. Now you have to work almost an hour to afford one Big Mac.: https://inflationchart.com/minwage-in-bigmac

What percentage of the labor force earned the minimum wage in the 1970s versus today? Today it's less than 1%. More realistically the new minimum wage in the US is ~$13-$15 per hour, which you can earn from Walmart, Target, Amazon, Walgreens, CVS, Best Buy and most of the rest. They can't get enough labor and will hire almost anyone that walks in the door. These days you can trivially earn $13-$15 / hour to start, wo…

It's worth pointing out that lots of countries don't even have minimum wage laws. It doesn't mean people there make $0 an hour.

Re: The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

#63

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It's not quite that simple. The US Big Mac [1] has 11% more calories than the Denmark Big Mac [2], which is an 11% difference. Also, the average hourly wage in the US is $31.63 [3] as of January 31st. [1] https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/big-mac.html [2] https://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/mcdonalds-big-mac... [3] https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.b.htm

> The US Big Mac [1] has 11% more calories than the Denmark Big Mac [2], which is an 11% difference. Sorry, could we get someone to check those numbers?

Well you need two guys, one from the US, one from Denmark and they booth need a calorie counter machine.

Re: The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What percentage of the labor force earned the minimum wage in the 1970s versus today? Today it's less than 1%. More realistically the new minimum wage in the US is ~$13-$15 per hour, which you can earn from Walmart, Target, Amazon, Walgreens, CVS, Best Buy and most of the rest. They can't get enough labor and will hire almost anyone that walks in the door. These days you can trivially earn $13-$15 / hour to start, wo…

It's worth pointing out that lots of countries don't even have minimum wage laws. It doesn't mean people there make $0 an hour.

Those countries are either very strong union countries or countries that have lower standards of living.

Re: The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

#65

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I think there's more to consider here too that makes it irrelevant in terms of currency comparison. Usually cheap stuff like bread is notoriously expensive in Switzerland for example, I'd assume because the price of labour is that high. As such the cost of making a big mac there is also more expensive, buying power is higher, so to meet demand and recoup labour costs the end prices are higher. Same for the other extr…

>Usually cheap stuff like bread is notoriously expensive in Switzerland for example, maybe ingredient quality in some places might be legally mandated, increasing price (I know everyone gets the same, but not if the law says different) basically the thing I'm thinking of is an article about a year ago where some sort of white bread was declared legally not bread but a form of cake by some EU country - can't remember…

That's not really an issue because big mac advertising rarely mentions "bread" explicitly. They could make it out of actual cake, and probably be fine as long as they called it a "bun" rather than "bread".

Re: The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

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The problem with the big mac index is that it assumes people still like mcdonalds.

Their stock and earnings would suggest they’re more popular than ever. Every time I drive past the one near me there’s a line of cars wrapped around it.

I worked with a dude a decade ago who called me saying he was going to be late because there was a big line at McDonald's haha

Re: The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

#69
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's more to consider here too that makes it irrelevant in terms of currency comparison. Usually cheap stuff like bread is notoriously expensive in Switzerland for example, I'd assume because the price of labour is that high. As such the cost of making a big mac there is also more expensive, buying power is higher, so to meet demand and recoup labour costs the end prices are higher. Same for the other extr…

It isn't about converting currency as much as a hypothetical arbitrage play in the difference between exchange rates and actual prices. If I took a bunch of dollars to Turkey, converted them, bought an obscene amount of Big Macs, brought them back to the US, and resold them, there would be a lot of money to be made due to the value gap. Obviously ignore the fact that Big Macs are perishable goods(arguable?) and that…

I'm not sure if you realize this, but your entire comment can essentially be summarized to "offshoring".
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