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The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

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"In 2019, there was an estimated $1,650 trillion in foreign exchange market activity (Bank for International Settlements 2019, p.3).6 In that same year, world trade in goods and services was $24.96 trillion (World Trade Organization 2020, p.17). This is 1.5% of total currency market activity. Even allowing for multiple covering transactions by various parties and multiplying this by a factor of five, it still yields a total of only $124.8 trillion, or 7.5% of total foreign exchange volume. If we assumed that the appropriate factor were ten, which seems very unlikely, this does not help markedly as it only gets us to 15% of the market. In other words, purchasing power parity is an explanation of currency prices that is based on something in the range of 1.5% to 15% of actual foreign exchange market activity. Even supporters of purchasing power parity admit that it only holds in the long run – a period of time they say is equivalent to years or even decades. The more likely answer is that it does not hold at all. Because the factors that determine the demand for goods and services differ significantly from those that drive financial capital flows, purchasing power parity cannot possibly explain real-world currency movements."

Harvey, John. (2021). Modern Monetary Theory, the United Kingdom, and Pound Sterling. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351764940_Modern_Mo...

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In Argentina one of the biggest issues with this Index is that if they use the official exchange I may look like that the Peso is way stronger than what actually it is. We have a lot of restrictions that prohibit Argentinian's from getting Dollars a that exchange ( only 200 USD a months ). It should be more fair to use the "Dollar Libre" (kind of dollars of the black market) as the exchange rate, which is double the official.

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I for one am shocked a Big Mac costs $5.81 in the United States. It's been too long I guess but I remember the meals going for $5-6 when I was a kid. And that's national average too, not an expensive metro area. Surely there were advances in production and logistics that would have lowered the "real" cost of McDonalds delivering a Big Mac, so all else being equal we would expect the price to drop over time. But monet…

In the past few years, McDonald's (and some, but not all, other fast food restaurants) really seems to have gone all-in on the price-discrimination approach of setting list prices high and offering all kinds of discounts if you know where to look.

Relevant to the Big Mac Index, at the moment the app offers a two-for-one deal, through February 27, on Big Macs; so the effective price isn't $5.81 but $2.90. If you don't want two Big Macs, you can get free fries or a free drink, or both, or 20% off your whole order instead: but you can only use one discount every fifteen minutes, and you can only use any specific discount once per day.

The implication for the Big Mac Index is that in the face of the complex web of discounts offered by McDonald's it's nearly impossible to calculate the actual price of a Big Mac in the United States for general purposes.

That the 'discount' is offered through February 27 shows that this isn't really a discount but effectively the regular price for people who order through the app. The choice of the 27th for the end date leads me to suspect that they might be lifting the discount for one day a month to keep the FTC happy.

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I like that other "Big Mac index" where they compare how long an employee has to work at McDonald's in different countries to buy a Big Mac there; that at least give you some idea of which economy you'd want to live in.

can you provide us a link?

https://www.economist.com/news/2009/08/20/an-alternative-big... or without paywall https://www.labnol.org/internet/big-mac-price-index/9721/

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I think the moral of the story is I need to go to Russia and get a Big Mac

I remember the news of the time when they opened the first McDonalds in Russia and thanks to youtube, you can relive that moment and also appreciate back then, what was cheap for us, was not so in Russia, but yet they still came.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckbfS99N6jY

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post #7

I for one am shocked a Big Mac costs $5.81 in the United States. It's been too long I guess but I remember the meals going for $5-6 when I was a kid. And that's national average too, not an expensive metro area. Surely there were advances in production and logistics that would have lowered the "real" cost of McDonalds delivering a Big Mac, so all else being equal we would expect the price to drop over time. But monet…

In the past few years, McDonald's (and some, but not all, other fast food restaurants) really seems to have gone all-in on the price-discrimination approach of setting list prices high and offering all kinds of discounts if you know where to look. Relevant to the Big Mac Index, at the moment the app offers a two-for-one deal, through February 27, on Big Macs; so the effective price isn't $5.81 but $2.90. If you don't…

Same in Canada. List price is $6.29, but the app routinely sends me coupons for $3.29 per unit.

And then there’s some points/rebate with each purchase.

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's more to consider here too that makes it irrelevant in terms of currency comparison. Usually cheap stuff like bread is notoriously expensive in Switzerland for example, I'd assume because the price of labour is that high. As such the cost of making a big mac there is also more expensive, buying power is higher, so to meet demand and recoup labour costs the end prices are higher. Same for the other extr…

Big Macs in Denmark are roughly the same price as in the US, but in Denmark you'd make $22/hour...

The average purchasing power of both seem to be about the same though: https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Denmark/Un...

The US definitely has much higher inequality, so maybe comparing average rather than median could be unrealistic.

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's more to consider here too that makes it irrelevant in terms of currency comparison. Usually cheap stuff like bread is notoriously expensive in Switzerland for example, I'd assume because the price of labour is that high. As such the cost of making a big mac there is also more expensive, buying power is higher, so to meet demand and recoup labour costs the end prices are higher. Same for the other extr…

It isn't about converting currency as much as a hypothetical arbitrage play in the difference between exchange rates and actual prices. If I took a bunch of dollars to Turkey, converted them, bought an obscene amount of Big Macs, brought them back to the US, and resold them, there would be a lot of money to be made due to the value gap. Obviously ignore the fact that Big Macs are perishable goods(arguable?) and that…

Yeah theoretically, except customs tend to nullify that exact arbitrage profit. If anything you'd have a major loss. Could work for inside the EU I guess though, between those that don't use the Euro and those that do.
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