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Post by AndyMcConachie »

zelos wrote: post #359
the_amzn_race wrote: post #353

I've been an Amazon SDE and an Amazon SDM. I enjoyed my time as an SDE, luckily free from these horror stories. After having been an SDM, I understand how these horror stories can form. Generally, Amazon has two minds about performance management. In written documentation, it's all about whether your reports meet the role guidelines. The written documentation is solid. They share how to evaluate people objectively an…

What's the justification for an attrition target? It seems such a weird thing to want your staff to leave.

Why do masters whip slaves?

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Post by User23 »

tomrod wrote: post #351
Jolter wrote: post #281

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Sure, so do I, but when I tell my manager I'm worth X amount, he'll say that's just not where local salaries are at for my job category and responsibility. Implying that other developers in my area are available for less than I ask. I mean, if a person is able to extract 700€ per day, kudos to them but that's still above the 90th percentile of senior developers in Europe.

> Implying that other developers in my area are available for less than I ask. They can attempt to prove it.

I had a buddy do exactly that. His manager told him he was already paid above market. Inside a month he showed her that she was wrong and we had a gaping hole to fill in the team.

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Post by helsinkiandrew »

trenchgun wrote: post #153
helsinkiandrew wrote: post #46

> Since it is performance review season at Amazon, he quickly sent me into a dev plan (PIP) I think the lesson of this story is to apply for another role after the performance review season.

> I expressed my intention for an internal transfer to my manager at my current AWS team. Or to not express intention to transfer to current manager?

He’d accepted an offer from another team so he had to eventually

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Post by _fat_santa »

snowman-yelling wrote: post #368
duncangh wrote: post #340

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Lmao this is great because on my "virtual on-site" final round of interviews at Amazon, the fire alarm of the person who was interviewing me went off. She switched to audio on the call and continued to try to work through the little coding challenge as she was shouting implementation details above the echo-y wails of a fire alarm raging in a crowded stairwell. Baffled, concerned for her safety and bewildered by her p…

My apartments fire alarm went off during my virtual on-site with Amazon too. There was about 10 minutes left and the interviewer said I should go and he had what he needed. Got an offer the next day!

Amazon vs Amazon on Blind

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Post by ctvo »

endisneigh wrote: post #370
ctvo wrote: post #356

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This is a secondary source: https://buffer.com/resources/employee-tenure/#employeetenure... The original source from Paysa seems to be down (the entire site looks down). Edit: It's all employees, not just engineers, but I don't think engineers would differ too much.

5 years old, not just engineers, and doesn't contradict PIPs happening a lot. A PIP control isn't going to affect the median a ton, but can still be problematic.

Are you saying this number is significantly different now for engineers? As in average tenure has increased?

The original point was tenure is short, and no manager can guarantee that their “core” team will remain together, for any number of reasons. So letting go a “too good” engineer to keep this team together makes little sense not that PIP isn’t happening.

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Post by Aeolun »

bdlowery wrote: post #150
vultour wrote: post #104

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Are you not on Linkedin? This self-aggrandizing cringe is 95% of the content in the feed, I'm always amazed people can write this with a straight face.

After grinding leetcode for months, and going through 4 interviews, you feel like you’ve “finally made it” which is why people post cringey posts like that.

The people that don’t grind leetcode like that don’t feel the need to make posts either.

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Post by ren_engineer »

mikeyjk wrote: post #335
danjac wrote: post #143

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That's Linkedin level quality.

The "agree?" is quintessential LinkedIn. Such an utterly shallow pretence for engaging a discussion.

it's a marketing hack, LinkedIn's algorithm boosts posts with lots of comments and engagement. So people post those artificial questions at the end which are basically preaching to the choir

the fact people actually fall for it is depressing

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