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Re: Show HN: Edit videos faster by automatically removing silences

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Post by nashashmi »

meigwilym wrote: post #77
Underphil wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I find it extremely hard to watch videos where the sense of flow is completely disrupted by these cuts. It seems to be the norm though so I guess we're in the minority.

+1, perhaps a sizeable minority? It's probably a generational thing. Personally I'd recommend writing a script and rehearsing it, instead of going on the fly and having to edit out the umhs, aahs and awkward silences. This might also raise the standard for excitement above the generic "super stoked". Having said that, I think there's probably a market for this. Good luck to OP!

This whole concept of a scripting and rehearsing is an older generation thing. Better to sound natural and real than rehearsed

Re: Show HN: Edit videos faster by automatically removing silences

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Post by nashashmi »

itake wrote: post #5

Instead of cutting out the silence spots, why not speed them up? If the presenter is silent b/c they are drawing something on the board (like in a lecture), then the result will feel a choppy.

Yes. Varying types of silence each require its own method of cutting like speeding up,or putting a graphic in the middle.

Re: Show HN: Edit videos faster by automatically removing silences

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Post by betimsl »

meigwilym wrote: post #77
Underphil wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I find it extremely hard to watch videos where the sense of flow is completely disrupted by these cuts. It seems to be the norm though so I guess we're in the minority.

+1, perhaps a sizeable minority? It's probably a generational thing. Personally I'd recommend writing a script and rehearsing it, instead of going on the fly and having to edit out the umhs, aahs and awkward silences. This might also raise the standard for excitement above the generic "super stoked". Having said that, I think there's probably a market for this. Good luck to OP!

The simplest way would be to make it like that and then write a script from the result, then re-shoot as a single uninterrupted stream of information.

Re: Show HN: Edit videos faster by automatically removing silences

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Post by SuboptimalEng »

I'm glad there you guys made this option available in the browser. For those that don't know, YouTubers can spend more than 50% of their time editing on just cutting/trimming down silences!

Source: I am a YouTuber.

I even tried to tackle this problem in 2021 by building Atomic Edits[0] - an electron desktop app that did the same thing! I built a working prototype, but eventually stopped working on it after realizing that lots of web-based video editors started offering this functionality. In retrospect, it was obvious that doing this in the browser with cloud saves was way better.

Anyways, nice work! I'll check it out later.

[0] https://www.github.com/SuboptimalEng/atomic-edits

Re: Show HN: Edit videos faster by automatically removing silences

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Post by Underphil »

nashashmi wrote: post #81
meigwilym wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1, perhaps a sizeable minority? It's probably a generational thing. Personally I'd recommend writing a script and rehearsing it, instead of going on the fly and having to edit out the umhs, aahs and awkward silences. This might also raise the standard for excitement above the generic "super stoked". Having said that, I think there's probably a market for this. Good luck to OP!

This whole concept of a scripting and rehearsing is an older generation thing. Better to sound natural and real than rehearsed

Potentially, but my favourite channels are those that don't jump cut in this way and still don't sound rehearsed. I think you're right about the generational thing, but also it speaks to a lack of effort on the creators part. Why learn to be a good presenter when you can have the technology take care of it for you?

Re: Show HN: Edit videos faster by automatically removing silences

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Post by dceddia »

serial_dev wrote: post #69
dceddia wrote: post #59

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Hey! The current plan is to offer both versions, at least until the Rust/Electron app is at feature parity with the Mac app. In any case, the Mac app will continue to work, and you wouldn't be forced to switch versions. On the Rust/Electron side, all the heavy lifting is done in Rust-land, and so far, it's going pretty well. It's not all roses of course - it takes a bounce or two to start instead of launching instant…

Just wondering, did you consider Flutter? Thoughts? It would help with both the disk and memory usage, easy to learn after web frameworks (both the framework, Flutter, feels familiar and Dart is super easy to learn), works well with Rust, but of course it has its downsides (no longer can rely on the html js css ecosystem).

I looked at Flutter briefly. To be honest, I was a little worried about betting on a Google thing, with the ecosystem being comparatively still pretty small, and with Dart.

IMO this project is already in debt on innovation tokens[0] given I didn't know Rust coming in, nor much at all about video. And then, hybrid web/native stuff is just not very widespread so there's not a lot of existing answers for things. Lots of digging into code and figuring stuff out. The web stack (Svelte, TypeScript) is the one part of this thing that already felt familiar, and I didn't want to throw that out.

0: from Choose Boring Technology :) http://boringtechnology.club/

Re: Show HN: Edit videos faster by automatically removing silences

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Post by dceddia »

phist_mcgee wrote: post #68
dceddia wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey! The current plan is to offer both versions, at least until the Rust/Electron app is at feature parity with the Mac app. In any case, the Mac app will continue to work, and you wouldn't be forced to switch versions. On the Rust/Electron side, all the heavy lifting is done in Rust-land, and so far, it's going pretty well. It's not all roses of course - it takes a bounce or two to start instead of launching instant…

Have you investigated Tauri [1]? It's a lightweight wrapper around native web views that connects to a rust backend. I've had great success with it so far. [1] https://tauri.studio/

Yeah I looked at Tauri! It's pretty great and I'm excited to see where it goes. I didn't end up going with it because I had a hard time figuring out how to efficiently send data from Rust -> browser without making a copy, and Tauri is still fairly early on the native integration stuff. I'm definitely going to keep an eye on it though. One benefit of having most of the code in Rust is that I could feasibly port it to another platform.
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