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Somewhat controversial opinion but from my experience most people at Amazon who got pipped deserve it. Especially with new grads, they've lowered the bar and stopped doing interviews since it's so hard to hire, that there's a lot of people not cut out for the job so they rely on pip to calibrate quality.

Great idea to use unhealthy stress to weed out the unqualified people. Should work amazingly for the morale of the qualified people.

https://www.savagechickens.com/2012/05/employee-morale.html

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post #186

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it’s also worrying this person was checking his email at 1130pm.

They didn't even say they read it at 11:30, they said it was sent at 11:30.

fair. just to clarify though - i find the expectation to be always online / checking work email at all hours also a sign of a toxic workplace. definitely could have phrased my original comment better.

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post #221

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Yeah that's true. We really need some service like blind where people can anonymously review and score managers. We need votes to prove that a manager is an ass hole. One anecdotal story isn't enough. Maybe the service leaves the manager anonymous until the review amount crosses a certain threshold... 3 to 4 guys calling him out? Submit this to ycombinator!

Honest question: how to prevent abusing this system?

Hey we've come full circle to PIP again.

But seriously: there isn't a way. This is why sites like Glassdoor are garbage and teacher rating sites have ruined careers over minor issues.

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post #139

This comment killed me : Will Ye Will Ye Engineering @ Cohere (cohere.io) 5mo Back when I worked at Amazon as a software engineer, the CRAZIEST thing happened to me. Here’s the story… I was working from home with my girlfriend (at the time), when suddenly I get an urgent ping from my coworker: “Our service is experiencing a SEV 2! We need all hands on deck!” Uh oh, our team’s application has gone down! However, as I…

That's Linkedin level quality.

The "agree?" is quintessential LinkedIn.

Such an utterly shallow pretence for engaging a discussion.

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post #259

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Where do you live that 700€ a DAY is low pay? It’s, that’s MORE than 700$ a day, not less. Consider that most parts of the world have lower cost of living than the Bay Area.

That’s roughly equivalent to 120,000 Euro/year once normalized for taxes (~50% for self-employed, ~30% for employees). I have no idea what typical salaries are in the EU, but that’s on the low end of mid-career for much of the US.

It would be the top range (if at all possible) for a developer working as a permanent employee. Usually the only way to make this kind of money is to go self-employed

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I was lucky enough to experience a 2 year long project in which everything that went wrong was blamed on the developers. Project managers breathing down your neck, feeling so pressured you barely dare take a bathroom break, the whole shebang. Quit working for them and now I'm a freelance dev. They asked me to get back on the project and I said fine, that'll be €700/day. After some grumbling they realized they had no…

700 a day??? Why did you undercharge by so much. I know the EU dev market isn't great but those are rookie numbers for "danger money." Three of the "retired, then handed enough money to unretire" COBAL guys at my old place were doing 2500 a day.

Especially if they were contacted directly and not having to pay an additional cut to a recruiter/agency

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A side effect of working for asshole companies like that for years is I’ve slowly developed a zero fucks attitude and an immunity to threats and carrots dangled in front of me. I can sit there as a project is falling over the edge of a cliff with total inner peace. My interest stops at the pay cheque and by the clock.

One of the things I surprisingly (?) learned at a small startup as the first employee. It was me and the two founders that I already knew from working together in the past. I expected that my opinion matters, I tried to improve the product, the service, the engineering, but anytime I recommended something it was ignored. After some months, I learned to just shut up and code. This experience taught me that no matter h…

i had to check twice that it wasnt me who wrote it )))

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post #139

This comment killed me : Will Ye Will Ye Engineering @ Cohere (cohere.io) 5mo Back when I worked at Amazon as a software engineer, the CRAZIEST thing happened to me. Here’s the story… I was working from home with my girlfriend (at the time), when suddenly I get an urgent ping from my coworker: “Our service is experiencing a SEV 2! We need all hands on deck!” Uh oh, our team’s application has gone down! However, as I…

Lmao this is great because on my "virtual on-site" final round of interviews at Amazon, the fire alarm of the person who was interviewing me went off. She switched to audio on the call and continued to try to work through the little coding challenge as she was shouting implementation details above the echo-y wails of a fire alarm raging in a crowded stairwell. Baffled, concerned for her safety and bewildered by her priorities, I hung up and pretended the call had dropped. No offer. No interest
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