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As an Indian, I am starting to notice a pattern of terrible Indian managers from all the stories I hear from my friends. I really hope that these stories make up a biased sample.
Amazon Pip Horror Story
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Guys, what do you think of a ratemyprofessors.com for bosses at companies? Optional anonymous reviews and to be fair and balanced the boss can respond to each review. That way people can do what jiawei did but without the risk of professional self harm.
Glassdoor is kind of like that, and in my experience it is decently accurate too.
Blind is pretty great but probably overly cynical. It’s not been “discovered” just yet.
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That first post, is that the acceptance speech for a Nobel prize?
Are you not on Linkedin? This self-aggrandizing cringe is 95% of the content in the feed, I'm always amazed people can write this with a straight face.
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Performance improvement plan. Either a manager writes a plan of measurable goals focused on improving, or a manager and the target employee both work on the plan together. It can be used for actual performance improvement or it can be used as something the employee cannot meet as a way to fire them or get them to a different team.
You would be nuts to treat it as anything other than loading the bullet into the gun that terminates you. All it is is to make sure that the bullet is legal.
If you're a manager in a situation where an employee has a problem and aren't meeting the job requirements, you'd probably much rather that they fix the problem and contribute to the team than fire them.
That doesn't mean that all of these plans are done in good faith, or that some managers aren't terrible. And for an employee on a PIP, they should think hard about leaving the company (or at least the team); it'll be better for their career.
But I don't think one can say that it's nothing more than a legal way to fire someone (especially since you can fire someone in most states in the US without cause, and spurious allegations of racial or other discrimination would need documentation that would be hard to produce if it didn't actually happen).
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You should've played the game and claimed you've never said what HR says you've said and in fact (here goes the distraction part of the lie) you heard another guy was talking about pizza, so HR must've overheard that conversation and misremembered the details.
The problem is the manager would probably start with "did you have a pizza stolen?" without mentioning HR
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All we want is change in the industry. This is enough for that I believe. Your name on the internet, your employees calling you out (anonymously). It's social proof. That effects your awareness and also your future job opportunities.
Such a system is also likely to be abused, is it not?
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His post 5 months after joining was a repost of someone criticizing Amazon. And then he ended up getting PIPed recently. His linked profile is all over the place too with work experience, he never held a job longer than 4 months. Dunno if I would automatically side with his story from that.
I would expect him to not have worked anywhere longer than 4 months considering he just graduated and those were internships
Also he has a background in bio, and managed to land a full stack and ML engineer positions, implying he is self taught, and therefore should be already fairly intelligent...but he decided to go get his MS in CS, without even doing any research project and just opting for the GTA instead of GRA route.
None of us can really know for sure, Im just saying it smells a little fishy. If his resume came across my desk, Id have some specific questions about his experience. If you are that smart to have a background in bio, and land the jobs that he did, your career would look very different.
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#168How it started - https://i.imgur.com/7Cyia1U.jpeg How it is going - https://archive.fo/pdYHy#selection-525.105-525.423
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828317
Edit: I think it's https://www.linkedin.com/posts/hire-jiawei-wang_hi-linkedin-...
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Maybe a silly question on my part; did you manage to learn a lot? In the past, I thought of putting myself in positions like these to increase my understanding in short time, at the short term expense of personal life. I wonder if that's just a stupid thought that leads to nothing but burnout, or actually a viable short-term strategy to get up to speed with some of the tech stack you know but haven't really used in p…
You may/may not learn, but living in situations like the OP was put in is horrible. Every day feels like hell, and if you burn out it may take years to recover.
Then again, I keep interviewing people with 5-10 years of experience, who will go something like this:
> How would you manage a server? (leaving out a ton of context about what it means to "manage a server")
> Very easy, SSH connection is very fast, reliable, ...
> Awesome, love me some SSH, how about 5 servers?
> Hmm, probably write shell scripts.
> How about 50 servers?
> Shell scripts?
> Even with 500 servers?
> Hire more people..?
And I keep feeling that these people don't have 10 YoE, they have 1-2 YoE times some coefficient.
I feel like if you're in a "successful rut", that's what it will do to you. You feel like you're successful, but in fact, you have fallen horribly behind, without even knowing it.
Your quality of life is probably fine, until you're laid off one day.
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You may/may not learn, but living in situations like the OP was put in is horrible. Every day feels like hell, and if you burn out it may take years to recover.
This is my personal experience, which is why I'd advise people not to go through with the above thought experiment. Then again, I keep interviewing people with 5-10 years of experience, who will go something like this: > How would you manage a server? (leaving out a ton of context about what it means to "manage a server") > Very easy, SSH connection is very fast, reliable, ... > Awesome, love me some SSH, how about 5…
Some people get complacent once they get a job and stop learning. The trick is to keep on learning. I have worked for a company like Amazon with aggressive schedules where we used to work for 12 hrs/day. One time I didnt go home for 3 days. I can say I learnt a lot, but there are better companies with mature planning where you would still learn the same amount.
How different ppl react to toxic environments is also different. Some people may thrive, while some may wither.
I say it is a random walk searching for the best place (for you) to work. You keep iterating until you find what you want.