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> Are we truly clean to judge? What kind of weird deflection is this? The US having done some horrible stuff in the past (or present) doesn't somehow excuse China doing horrible things too.
Even weirder is the implication that everyone reading this is going to be from the US, which is simply not true.
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Not watching the Olympics, deleted TikTok off everyone’s phones in the house, buying more locally made things, etc.
Serious question, does not watching the Olympics hurt them other than signaling? Currently debating getting Peacock for the month but have held out to boycott as well. To me, it seems it is only hurting NBC and, in a strange way, the US.
So yes, if the olympics is a failure because people boycott it then it hurts their pride because they have built their pride around such events.
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Change. Goddamn, are you serious standing there saying "it's cool, rape and torture them. Our country used to do it a few generations ago." Privileged asshole.
Should we be compelled to intervene in sovereign nations? Does sovereignty still exist?
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#74Can anyone point to a change or sacrifice they have made because they disagree with Chinas treatment of anyone?
1. I always check the country of origin before buying. I still buy China-made products when there's absolutely no other option, but whenever there's an alternative made anywhere outside China (whether higher priced, or even slightly inferior), I buy that instead. 2. Going to fund the development (since I can't do this myself) of a browser plugin to help people find non-China goods on Amazon easily. Just two features:…
I also do 3 whenever I get a chance, which is rare btw.
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#75I talked about this recently, and I was reminded of the Blackhawk War. I have read Blackhawk's memoirs, because it's such a part of my community, but nobody knows it. There were extenuating circumstances (the British gun-running down the Mississipi). U.S. forces suffered important defeats (Campbell's Island, and the Battle of Credit Island that humbled future president Zachary Taylor.) I learned from another source t…
This sounds like 50 cent army stuff for what it is worth: https://www.voanews.com/a/who-is-that-chinese-troll/3540663....
No one is ever a paid shill for US imperialism, NED grants are for independent thinkers...
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#76> In quiet, polite voices, Aysu and Lütfullah Kuçar describe the nearly 20 months they spent in state boarding schools in China's western region of Xinjiang, forcibly separated from their family. > Under the watchful gaze of their father, the two ethnically Uyghur children say that their heads were shaved and that class monitors and teachers frequently hit them, locked them in dark rooms and forced them to hold stres…
Sounds like what the US and Canadian government did to indigenous children. That's not to excuse anything the Chinese government does but it feels like they dusted off an old playbook.
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> Has anyone here even written to their senator? Can anyone point to a change or sacrifice a senator has made to their beliefs after receiving a letter? I'm guessing a check would be more persuasive.
My Senator is Dianne Feinstein, whose husband personally created the China-shipping-products pipeline with early purchases of ships, shipping capacity, intermediate companies for low-ish prices, then spent decades carefully lowering the costs, to eventually make billions, and make sure that the assets involved were owned closely to prevent takeover. Maybe I should write her a letter?
Yes, you should, because if there has been abuses of political power to engage in fraud, it should be investigated, and until then she should recuse herself from anything that may cast a doubt on her actions.
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#78Can anyone point to a change or sacrifice they have made because they disagree with Chinas treatment of anyone?
The last time a sanction actually worked was with Iran's nuclear program, which completely crushed their economy. That also required the most sophisticated cyberattack in history. Sanctions alone did nothing to stop Russia's annexation of Crimea, and that also caused Europe to suffer from expensive gas prices. China has a much large economy, so any equivalent sanction would be the largest drag on the economy since WWII.
Also, keep in mind that any sanction use for humanitarian leverage is one less that we can use for geopolitical or economic leverage. The likelyhood that politicians would vote for meaningful sanctions to help Xinjiang is about as likely as voting for offering China $1 trillion to shut down their reeducation camps.
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#79I talked about this recently, and I was reminded of the Blackhawk War. I have read Blackhawk's memoirs, because it's such a part of my community, but nobody knows it. There were extenuating circumstances (the British gun-running down the Mississipi). U.S. forces suffered important defeats (Campbell's Island, and the Battle of Credit Island that humbled future president Zachary Taylor.) I learned from another source t…
You read about horrible things that happened in the 1800s and your takeaway is... we should allow such things to happen again today? Can you elaborate a little bit?
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#80Can anyone point to a change or sacrifice they have made because they disagree with Chinas treatment of anyone?