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Re: Slackware 15.0

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Poignant remarks. We're not getting any younger: "Erik "alphageek" Jan Tromp passed away in 2020 after a long illness. He was a long-time member of the Slackware core team doing a ton of stuff behind the scenes and a master of lesser-known programming languages like Tcl. :-) For a long time he lived closer to me geographically than anyone else on the core team, but unfortunately with an international border between u…

When was the last release?

15 today. 14.2 was 2016

Re: Slackware 15.0

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If someone was choosing a Linux distro today, what would be some reasons to choose Slackware rather than another popular distro like Ubuntu, Fedora, or Arch?

Over the years I've gone from Ubuntu to Debian to Slackware and back to Debian. I took a chance on Slackware for a few years precisely so that I could force myself to understand *nix from the bottom up. Unfortunately I didn't have nearly as much free time (or patience) as I needed to get the most out of the experience, and having to deal with missing dependencies turned out to be too much overhead for just getting anything else done. I'd definitely recommend it for folks who enjoy (and have the time for) getting their hands dirty.

Re: Slackware 15.0

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I’ve already seen countless comments about Slackware being a lot of folks first Linux distro. For someone like me who didn’t get into programming until the last 5 years or so, can you guys explain what was it about Slackware, that was so appealing or inviting to new users? As a primarily Ubuntu user in my time, was part of it that the Linux landscape was much less mature back then? Was it the principals/ ethos that t…

It's a proper linux distro. Everything is in a sensible place. If you want to configure your system, you configure it with.. configuration files. If you break it, you get to keep both bits.

Re: Slackware 15.0

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Slackware was my first Linux too. I remember making the installation floppy disk set. And then it was my first introduction to running a computer others could remotely control. After learning how to dial up AOL from Linux then join an IRC chat room, I was immediately "pwned" by someone in that chat room who guessed my root password and rm -rf /'d my entire hard drive. I was probably 8 or 9 at the time and cried.

Slackware was actually my second distro. My first one came on CD-ROM :). Bought my first ever CD-ROM drive specifically for the purpose. Yggdrasil Linux. As I recall, that was around 0.98 or 0.99, and the support for networking was a bit rough. But it's been damn near 30 years so my memory is hazy.

Re: Slackware 15.0

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Slackware was my first linux distribution, and one that I used continuously before moving to Arch. As it happens, I think Arch embodies many of the original Slackware principles, but its focus on more modern hardware led to it growing a larger community - one that includes great documentation.

Arch embodied many of the original Slackware principles, once. These days I don't know what they're doing, but Void is basically Arch without the bullshit (and with runit instead of systemd, thank goodness).

I hear good things about Void, but last time I tried to install it, the mirror I was pulling from had the download time estimate at a couple of days, and I didn't have time to muck about that day.

Might be time to try it again - or a different mirror

Re: Slackware 15.0

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I’ve already seen countless comments about Slackware being a lot of folks first Linux distro. For someone like me who didn’t get into programming until the last 5 years or so, can you guys explain what was it about Slackware, that was so appealing or inviting to new users? As a primarily Ubuntu user in my time, was part of it that the Linux landscape was much less mature back then? Was it the principals/ ethos that t…

Speaking for myself only, it was my first linux distro in mid to late 1990s. Computer books, large reference type computer books were a thing back then. You could buy books titled something like "Slackware Bible" in very large print on the cover that promised to tell you how to run your own web server and maybe email server. In the back of the book were cd roms that had the Slackware source ready to build. It was immensely attractive to me. The internet was not much a thing back then, mostly AOL for regular Joe's. For academics or adventurous types there were universities and independent isps offering gopher,www and Usenet sites. Downloading distros over 2800k modems was not something you wanted to do. I remember installing Slackware but imo at the time it was horribly primitive and esoteric and promised days of driver and build hell. I remember having to build everything from source and wondering why in the hell was that required and it was not uncommon to o completely wreck your system by installing the wrong library or passing the scripts the wrong flags, etc. But it did get you a web server and other cool stuff. You could for nearly free host a website in your bedroom. But it could break at any time (I mean the whole system, requiring rebuild from scratch). I never enjoyed linux installs until I discovered debian in the early 2000s which was a God send. My apologies if my memories are off and no take slight to Slackware developers intended, it was just the state of the technology at the time. For the time the efforts were amazing.

Re: Slackware 15.0

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I’ve already seen countless comments about Slackware being a lot of folks first Linux distro. For someone like me who didn’t get into programming until the last 5 years or so, can you guys explain what was it about Slackware, that was so appealing or inviting to new users? As a primarily Ubuntu user in my time, was part of it that the Linux landscape was much less mature back then? Was it the principals/ ethos that t…

Slackware seemed the most mature at the time I started. Also, I really liked the way they split the packages into directories. I could just download the things I needed in one go. When you only have access to dial up, having to download stuff during installation is painful. So, I’d download all I needed over the course of a couple days, then I’d install it with all the needed stuff already in there.

After I got more used to how things worked, I eventually moved towards Redhat until I finally landed on Debian.

Re: Slackware 15.0

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Surprisingly I still use Slackware (current) and actually install it on our physics department computer room using packer to generate virtual golden images and then imaging the computers with clonezilla. Slackware performs well even on those 11 years old machines that we have there (combined with some new ones). Currently students access remotely using x2go and Xfce and it works pretty well. Of course there are some problems sometimes but in general is very stable. My first Linux experience with Slackware forced me to learn how to compile the kennel to get sound... oh I had time on those years. Congratulations and thank you, Patrick!

Re: Slackware 15.0

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I’ve already seen countless comments about Slackware being a lot of folks first Linux distro. For someone like me who didn’t get into programming until the last 5 years or so, can you guys explain what was it about Slackware, that was so appealing or inviting to new users? As a primarily Ubuntu user in my time, was part of it that the Linux landscape was much less mature back then? Was it the principals/ ethos that t…

Slackware is a no frills distro and arguably the baseline for all linux distros. It’s appealing because of the lack of magic or distro specific customizations. If you want a distro that just lets you do what you need to do without getting in the way, it’s very appealing. If you want a distro that prevents you from shooting yourself in the foot, look elsewhere.

A bonus point is that Slackware does not rely on systemd. it is still a bunch of bash scripts that you can figure out what is going on.

Re: Slackware 15.0

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I’ve already seen countless comments about Slackware being a lot of folks first Linux distro. For someone like me who didn’t get into programming until the last 5 years or so, can you guys explain what was it about Slackware, that was so appealing or inviting to new users? As a primarily Ubuntu user in my time, was part of it that the Linux landscape was much less mature back then? Was it the principals/ ethos that t…

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