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Post by datavirtue »

lubujackson wrote: post #115
throwamon wrote: post #78

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For me I often feel it's a refusal to accept that life is short and I'll never have time to explore every single thing that has ever interested me in enough depth, and that no matter how much I learn and explore in the time I do have, I'll never be satisfied. So I keep on piling bookmarks on top of bookmarks and thus avoid having to choose what I will intently dedicate my time to. I gotta bookmark this comment and re…

There is an idea that might make you feel better - personal libraries (or bookmarks, in this case) shouldn't be just be a collection of books read but of books one would like to read or have on hand for future use. This change in perspective turns your library from a "failure of accomplishment" to a "curated resource for future enrichment".

Second that. I don't keep it in my library unless it's classic (by my standards) or I want to read it in the future. Accessibility breeds opportunity.

Re: Ideas that have been beaten to death

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Post by datavirtue »

elefantastisch wrote: post #96
timoth3y wrote: post #65

Alternate Take: - Bookmarking is not broken. Bookmarking works just fine. What's broken is what we want to do with the bookmarks once we have them. The problem is we don't know exactly what that is. We tell ourselves that it's to "review it later", but that's not really it. It it were it would be simple to block out some time and do that, but we never actually do. We don't know why we really make those bookmarks. Boo…

I want to be able to refer back to valuable writing I've read online. I read something once about effective use of multiple choice questions in a classroom setting. I'd like to be able to find it again. I want to be able to browse a curated collection of the web around some topic. I've come across a handful of really, really good tech blogs over the years. I'd like to be able to flip through them in one place. I'd li…

If you want to refer to it then just archive it yourself.

Re: Ideas that have been beaten to death

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Post by srcreigh »

rukshn wrote: post #39
srcreigh wrote: post #26

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Why would Google ever implement decent bookmarks aka local search for all your data? They need to track you for their business.

Yes that is true of course. But at least forks of Chrome, FF, can try to implement a decent bookmarking feature in their browser. Maybe FF is not doing it because they own pocket. But true there is conflict of interest that I didn't see until I read your comment.

Even FF receives lots of money from Google every year to be default search engine. It's pure speculation but I wonder if the threat of not getting that deal next year is enough that FF doesn't invest in Pocket/bookmarks too much.

Re: Ideas that have been beaten to death

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Post by csdvrx »

15charslong wrote: post #117
csdvrx wrote: post #103

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Have you considered B2B? A lot of small companies would love shared bookmarks to have some employees discover more easily things that were previously bookmarked by other employees.

Like a shared knowledge base? I hadn't thought about it like this before, but thank you. As I'm writing this all the possibilities are just flooding my mind. I will be looking into this for V2. Thank you so very much.

give me your email and let's talk :) I can try to introduce you to first potential clients. This way you'll confirm product market fit.

Think simple: even something that could just ingest bookmarks from chrome/edge sqlite database and process them into a custom search engine (that would NOT expose said links to say google, even if they are public links) using good old tf-idf would be extremely valuable.

Re: Ideas that have been beaten to death

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Post by mynameismon »

reactspa wrote: post #19
mynameismon wrote: post #9

A very interesting solution that has worked for me is...Zotero. Zotero + the web connector basically allows me to do a lot of things that are usually only achieved with paid products. For example, full text search, saving HTML copies offline, linking related websites, adding tags and notes, all of this (and more) is possible.

Very interesting. If you've found a good enough way to import Chrome bookmarks into Zotero, please share how you do it. (Ignore if you haven't, or don't use Chrome). Thanks.

I haven't been able to do so, but considering Zotero uses a SQLite file, and Chrome uses a JSON file, you could hook up a Python script to carry all of them over.

Re: Ideas that have been beaten to death

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Post by 15charslong »

csdvrx wrote: post #124
15charslong wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like a shared knowledge base? I hadn't thought about it like this before, but thank you. As I'm writing this all the possibilities are just flooding my mind. I will be looking into this for V2. Thank you so very much.

give me your email and let's talk :) I can try to introduce you to first potential clients. This way you'll confirm product market fit. Think simple: even something that could just ingest bookmarks from chrome/edge sqlite database and process them into a custom search engine (that would NOT expose said links to say google, even if they are public links) using good old tf-idf would be extremely valuable.

i actually got decently far with V2, but I'm very interested in seeing if there is a product market fit for this. Here is my email: hello(at)vx0f.com

Re: Ideas that have been beaten to death

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Post by ganzuul »

maze-le wrote: post #66
jhkiehna wrote: post #64

He states that bookmarks in browsers are "broken" but doesn't elaborate. I've never felt this way, Anyone know what he's talking about?

For me they are just piling up. I usually don't delete them and have a seemingly endless list on all of my "bookmark folders" that just keeps on growing -- after a few years some url schemas change or sites go down and the bookmarks don't work any longer.

I usually clear mine by a system reinstall and forgetting about them.

No Firefox I don't actually want you to stick them in an account forever. The weight of my unfinished projects is crushing.

Re: Ideas that have been beaten to death

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Post by lucas_membrane »

tga wrote: post #53
jonathanstrange wrote: post #10

The problem with bookmarking applications is that aside from a few websites you visit regularly, browsing and searching your bookmarks isn't going to be substantially different from browsing and searching the web, so you can just as well do the latter. If somebody came up with a revolutionary new way to browse bookmarks, then this would also be a revolutionary new way to browse the web (or your filesystem, while we'r…

Well, your bookmarks form a _very very_ small web, with only pages that are guaranteed to be interesting to you. You're inadvertently hinting towards an elegant solution: forget about trying to organize bookmarks. Instead, just hit a button to add that page to your micro-web, and later only use Google-like full text search for retrieving things. It's the content search part that browsers are missing -- can anyone con…

>> your bookmarks form a _very very_ small web

Not really a web, is it? The web is not hierarchical like the folder/sub-folder structure of a browser's bookmarks; the web has a network organization.

One thing that hasn't been implemented ad nauseum would be a powerful, simple, easy, convenient and effective logic for reorganizing and untangling a hopelessly confused, poorly organized, redundant, error-infested and ill-conceived hierarchical knowledge base such as an outline of a extensive subject, a decades-old bookmarks folder, or the hierarchical call tree of mission critical enterprise software system.

Re: Ideas that have been beaten to death

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Post by giorgioz »

causi wrote: post #114
giorgioz wrote: post #105

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No it's not. It's a conscious minimalist choice. My booksmark bar in Chrome fits 18 links. There is more links than the websites I use daily or even monthly. I think having more links than that it's HOARDING. You have the feeling of creating value by saving the links but in practice you won't use most of them and anyway you have history and search to help you out. Chrome even remove the bookmark bar by default. You h…

You're just not a bookmark user. Many people are, and Chrome is a much worse browser for those people than, say, Firefox where you can display a persistent bookmarks column. I have a folder with a couple dozen bookmarks of webcomics I read. I have a bookmarks folder with studies and papers regarding points of contentious online discussion I can reference without relying on Google. I have a folder of blogs I enjoy. I…

Just checked and Chrome allows bookmarks allows for folders. You can create 18 folders in the bookmark bar and those can even have nested folders. I think that's a LOT of folders and a LOT of flexibility even if you need it.
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