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Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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post #177

I guess I don't get it. For the price of an AirTag, you can buy a more capable tracker with GPS and mobile data. And it won't be notifying the trackee that it's there. The AirTag seems like a downgrade.

A downgrade for a stalker maybe. Honestly I use them and haven't had a single false positive ping.

Leave BT off for a few hours. :-)

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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Taping them together tightly silences it. Airtags have to be the most nerfed product I've bought. Day one, they were fantastic. Then they lowered the beeping and rogue alerts to a threshold my wife gets them from my keys or wallet all the time. Then they just beep randomly. I regret buying them to be honest. Tile never really got harped on for stalking. The samsung trackers work just as well as Apple and don't have a…

Apple has over a hundred million iPhones all across the US and opted them into helping track Airtags without asking for permission (I'm sure it was buried in the middle of pages of terms of service). The only way to opt your iDevice out of tracking is to turn off Find My, so you can't find your phone if you lose it. Nice bit of artificial tying there. Tile and Samsung devices are more for personal use and won't reall…

I could swear that Samsung's find my phone service works exactly the same way. Your phone is automatically used to track every other phone around you. It might not work for whatever their air tag equivalent is though

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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I've got a tag on my bike and it's pretty dumb that it starts beeping at the thief if it ever gets stolen. Why do we have to gimp everything to make it difficult to use them to break the law? Isn't enforcement of laws how we're supposed to make people not break the law?

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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What tracker is comparable in price? An AirTag is $30 with no other monthly costs. Genuinely asking, I would love to find a better solution.

A quick search on Amazon for 'gps tracker' will yield at least one option on the first page for $29.99. GSM for communications. Not as small as an AirTag, but 1.5 inches by 0.9 by 0.6 inches isn't exactly huge either. A legitimate point is that the battery life isn't great. But that's not too hard to solve, if you tolerate a little more space for a bigger battery. I'm sure there are even better options out there, tha…

The last time this came up on HN someone suggested this: https://lightbug.io/. I've gotta say it looks amazing, the smaller unit has a battery life measured in months, the big one in years.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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post #177

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A downgrade for a stalker maybe. Honestly I use them and haven't had a single false positive ping.

Leave BT off for a few hours. :-)

Hmm - I guess I simply don't do that (nor does any of my family). Any reason you need to turn off BT constantly?

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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post #24

Taping them together tightly silences it. Airtags have to be the most nerfed product I've bought. Day one, they were fantastic. Then they lowered the beeping and rogue alerts to a threshold my wife gets them from my keys or wallet all the time. Then they just beep randomly. I regret buying them to be honest. Tile never really got harped on for stalking. The samsung trackers work just as well as Apple and don't have a…

I haven't experienced the same issues you describe in terms of random beeping or the like. But I do think one of the most curious and irritating missing pieces from AirTags is no sort of tie-in with Family Sharing or some sort of contacts whitelist. I saw one thing saying that was about privacy but that makes zero sense because Apple doesn't do the same thing elsewhere in "Find My" for people or devices. While it's c…

I actually assumed this is how it would work. Had absolutely no reason to believe otherwise until my son lost his coat and we needed to get his phone before anyone could find it. I could have just added his coat to my account, but then he'd get stalking alerts all day long. Arg.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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Anecdotal regional issue: I had an AirTag on my AirPod Pro's case that was stolen. I immediately notified Austin's police (APD) as I could see where it was going. Unfortunately, due to understaffing of 100-200 police officers and detectives, most calls unrelated to imminent threats of injury or death aren't being handle for days or ever. So, it's open-season on packages and property because APD can't or won't do its…

> ATX has the security measures of a third-world country That's a pretty dramatic way to describe police not wanting to spend resources to get your $200 headphones back..

Capturing and punishing thieves has a deterring effect on other thieves. Police spending resources to get "your $200 headphones back" saves more than just the $200 headphones, since usually thieves are repeat offenders and it discourages would-be thieves from becoming thieves. If you think about it, if a police officer makes $100/h you could conceivably make the case that catching a single thief could potentially save local taxpayers who had stuff stolen the officer's full time salary for an entire week. I'd say that's worth it.

Take a look at this phone thief at a concert [1].

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBb33bKG1hQ

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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post #166

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You expect Apple do make an open protocol? This is the role of a government to mandate standards for their jurisdictions. Of course, regulation is a bad word for a good number of the electorate so this will never happen.

Genuinely curious: What are other examples where specific protocols (open or not) are mandated by regulation ?

The mandates are often things you don't see as a citizen, but often on government contractors (a huge part of the US economy).

The number of RFCs that are required for basic things like email, storage, security etc are essential standards primarily because USG required contractors and vendors to adhere to those standards.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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Anyone who would use these to stalk someone is an idiot. They’re tied to your Apple ID. It’s not at all anonymous. Apple warns people about the abuse. There’s a million GPS trackers for sale online that are near anonymous. The AirTag is a horrible device used to stalk people.

It’s perfect for stupid people, and there’s enough of them...

Or to frame someone if you're wanting to paint them in a bad light, create suspicion; "I didn't put my AirTag on their car."

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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post #154

Anecdotal regional issue: I had an AirTag on my AirPod Pro's case that was stolen. I immediately notified Austin's police (APD) as I could see where it was going. Unfortunately, due to understaffing of 100-200 police officers and detectives, most calls unrelated to imminent threats of injury or death aren't being handle for days or ever. So, it's open-season on packages and property because APD can't or won't do its…

The unfortunate truth is that police have better things to spend their time on. Heck, I had a nighttime home invasion/$4k+ of goods stolen in Boston 9 months ago and as far as I can tell the police couldn’t even be bothered to get their hands on the security camera footage from a neighboring convenience store after I told them there were cameras outside.

> The unfortunate truth is that police have better things to spend their time on.

From what I can "better things" is mostly pulling people over (legitimately or otherwise) in order to hand out tickets to raise revenue. Catching criminals is what we're told they do, stealing from the public, making money, and protecting only the most wealthy seems to be their real job.

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