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Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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What tracker is comparable in price? An AirTag is $30 with no other monthly costs. Genuinely asking, I would love to find a better solution.

A quick search on Amazon for 'gps tracker' will yield at least one option on the first page for $29.99. GSM for communications. Not as small as an AirTag, but 1.5 inches by 0.9 by 0.6 inches isn't exactly huge either. A legitimate point is that the battery life isn't great. But that's not too hard to solve, if you tolerate a little more space for a bigger battery. I'm sure there are even better options out there, tha…

> A legitimate point is that the battery life isn't great.

A big difference is that these GPS trackers broadcast their position continuously, wherever there is cell coverage. The AirTags only update their position when an Apple device (made after 2015) is within the relatively short bluetooth range of the tag.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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I guess I don't get it. For the price of an AirTag, you can buy a more capable tracker with GPS and mobile data. And it won't be notifying the trackee that it's there. The AirTag seems like a downgrade.

Can you name some alternatives with a decent network?

If the item has its own mobile network, i'm expecting an extra $20/mo for a phone plan (at which point, comparing to a fixed cost of an AirTag isnt valid.)

If it doesnt have a mobile network and relies on the mesh, then, is there any mesh available? Apple's mesh is global and pervasive.

And if it provides neither mobile support nor mesh, it isnt useful for anything except lost keys in a house.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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Not hard for a non-technical person to remove the speaker. Housing pops right open with a small flathead screwdriver. Then you just remove the speaker's magnet, no desoldering or anything like that required. Took 5 minutes. I did it to one of mine to use it to track my bicycle if it ever gets stolen.

If the thief has an iPhone, they'll still be alerted that the tracker is following them. If they move their phone around on your bike, they'll be able to find it, within several inches, with the NFC identification feature that gives the last four digits of the owners phone number. Maybe Apple's campaign is working: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/26/apple-doe...

Yeah but at least when I loan my bicycle to my friend it won’t beep constantly.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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Taping them together tightly silences it. Airtags have to be the most nerfed product I've bought. Day one, they were fantastic. Then they lowered the beeping and rogue alerts to a threshold my wife gets them from my keys or wallet all the time. Then they just beep randomly. I regret buying them to be honest. Tile never really got harped on for stalking. The samsung trackers work just as well as Apple and don't have a…

I haven't experienced any of the rouge alerts with them.

That's very strange, I wonder what is triggering it for you.

For my use case, tracking bags, kids on vacation and etc it has worked fine.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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Apple gets a lot of focus on it that other companies do not. Ex. Headlines often focus on Apple when revealing some of Foxconn's worst labor practices. But stories about Foxconn using child labor to build Alexa devices, and the person who blew the whistle on that being tortured and put in jail for revealing it, went fairly under the radar in comparison. It's definitely a good thin that unethical labor practices being…

Apple coopted every iPhone into a global surveillance network for the benefit of throwaway keychain tokens. That's why .

Every iPhone (and Android and dumbphone) was coopted into a global surveillance network from the very beginning.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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post #51

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A quick search on Amazon for 'gps tracker' will yield at least one option on the first page for $29.99. GSM for communications. Not as small as an AirTag, but 1.5 inches by 0.9 by 0.6 inches isn't exactly huge either. A legitimate point is that the battery life isn't great. But that's not too hard to solve, if you tolerate a little more space for a bigger battery. I'm sure there are even better options out there, tha…

> A legitimate point is that the battery life isn't great. A big difference is that these GPS trackers broadcast their position continuously, wherever there is cell coverage. The AirTags only update their position when an Apple device (made after 2015) is within the relatively short bluetooth range of the tag.

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Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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post #51

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A quick search on Amazon for 'gps tracker' will yield at least one option on the first page for $29.99. GSM for communications. Not as small as an AirTag, but 1.5 inches by 0.9 by 0.6 inches isn't exactly huge either. A legitimate point is that the battery life isn't great. But that's not too hard to solve, if you tolerate a little more space for a bigger battery. I'm sure there are even better options out there, tha…

> A legitimate point is that the battery life isn't great. A big difference is that these GPS trackers broadcast their position continuously, wherever there is cell coverage. The AirTags only update their position when an Apple device (made after 2015) is within the relatively short bluetooth range of the tag.

>> The AirTags only update their position when an Apple device (made after 2015) is within the relatively short bluetooth range of the tag, with an internet connection.

Luckily the "only" is pretty good. There are Apple devices almost everywhere i'd need to track a lost bike/car/schoolbag.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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I guess I don't get it. For the price of an AirTag, you can buy a more capable tracker with GPS and mobile data. And it won't be notifying the trackee that it's there. The AirTag seems like a downgrade.

Yeah but they need, you know, GPS. Which is an incredibly faint signal that is hopelessly attenuated by just about any indoors space.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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I love my AirTags because they actually have a functional tracking network. I've lost items outside the house with a Tile tracker attached and it proved to be entirely worthless for actually finding my stuff. They simply don't have a good network.

They need to switch over to Helium's LoRa network, which has vastly better coverage...

A) LoRa is proprietary so we wouldn't be better off on that axis

B) I don't trust the longevity of infrastructure financed by a shitcoin

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