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Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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Taping them together tightly silences it. Airtags have to be the most nerfed product I've bought. Day one, they were fantastic. Then they lowered the beeping and rogue alerts to a threshold my wife gets them from my keys or wallet all the time. Then they just beep randomly. I regret buying them to be honest. Tile never really got harped on for stalking. The samsung trackers work just as well as Apple and don't have a…

Apple gets a lot of focus on it that other companies do not. Ex. Headlines often focus on Apple when revealing some of Foxconn's worst labor practices. But stories about Foxconn using child labor to build Alexa devices, and the person who blew the whistle on that being tortured and put in jail for revealing it, went fairly under the radar in comparison. It's definitely a good thin that unethical labor practices being…

With more power, comes more responsibility.

Apple is going to always be under the magnifying glass because they are just so much "bigger".

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

#42
post #26

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Tile still isn't getting harped for stalking. I used a Tile to track down a backpack thief 5 years ago, could have easily been a person I was stalking. Apple's getting a lot of flack because they're enormous, consumers are more aware, and they have a better network... but the fact that they did any stalker alerting is beyond anything the existing products in the market have done. I'd guess the product designers at Ap…

Tile also isn't nearly as sensitive because it needs people to install their app to opt-in to their tracking network. Apple coopted every single phone into a tracker essentially creating a biggest people following and tracking network in the world - plus they use UWB which massively more accurate than what Tile uses. What Apple created would be Facebooks, NSAs and pretty much every spying entities wet dream to get fi…

> What Apple created would be Facebooks, NSAs and pretty much every spying entities wet dream to get fingers on.

No, Apple made it available to you. Police and intelligence agencies can buy this data from various entities or subpoena it.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

#43

Taping them together tightly silences it. Airtags have to be the most nerfed product I've bought. Day one, they were fantastic. Then they lowered the beeping and rogue alerts to a threshold my wife gets them from my keys or wallet all the time. Then they just beep randomly. I regret buying them to be honest. Tile never really got harped on for stalking. The samsung trackers work just as well as Apple and don't have a…

I love my AirTags because they actually have a functional tracking network. I've lost items outside the house with a Tile tracker attached and it proved to be entirely worthless for actually finding my stuff. They simply don't have a good network.

This is a place for a generic open protocol. To have a real internet of things we need some kind of DNS but for objects.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love my AirTags because they actually have a functional tracking network. I've lost items outside the house with a Tile tracker attached and it proved to be entirely worthless for actually finding my stuff. They simply don't have a good network.

They need to switch over to Helium's LoRa network, which has vastly better coverage...

Have things changed?

https://youtu.be/nerQCrOam5U

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

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What tracker is comparable in price? An AirTag is $30 with no other monthly costs. Genuinely asking, I would love to find a better solution.

A quick search on Amazon for 'gps tracker' will yield at least one option on the first page for $29.99. GSM for communications. Not as small as an AirTag, but 1.5 inches by 0.9 by 0.6 inches isn't exactly huge either. A legitimate point is that the battery life isn't great. But that's not too hard to solve, if you tolerate a little more space for a bigger battery. I'm sure there are even better options out there, tha…

There are plenty of trackers, but they require monthly subscriptions!

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

#46
post #24

Taping them together tightly silences it. Airtags have to be the most nerfed product I've bought. Day one, they were fantastic. Then they lowered the beeping and rogue alerts to a threshold my wife gets them from my keys or wallet all the time. Then they just beep randomly. I regret buying them to be honest. Tile never really got harped on for stalking. The samsung trackers work just as well as Apple and don't have a…

I haven't experienced the same issues you describe in terms of random beeping or the like. But I do think one of the most curious and irritating missing pieces from AirTags is no sort of tie-in with Family Sharing or some sort of contacts whitelist. I saw one thing saying that was about privacy but that makes zero sense because Apple doesn't do the same thing elsewhere in "Find My" for people or devices. While it's c…

Apple still has some weird atomization issues for a company which is going all-in on family stuff.

This is the company which ran out a credit card and payments infrastructure with serious fanfare— and, incredibly, no provisions for married people having joint accounts.

None, they added it later when dhh and Steve Wozniak made a stink about it.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

#48

Taping them together tightly silences it. Airtags have to be the most nerfed product I've bought. Day one, they were fantastic. Then they lowered the beeping and rogue alerts to a threshold my wife gets them from my keys or wallet all the time. Then they just beep randomly. I regret buying them to be honest. Tile never really got harped on for stalking. The samsung trackers work just as well as Apple and don't have a…

Apple gets a lot of focus on it that other companies do not. Ex. Headlines often focus on Apple when revealing some of Foxconn's worst labor practices. But stories about Foxconn using child labor to build Alexa devices, and the person who blew the whistle on that being tortured and put in jail for revealing it, went fairly under the radar in comparison. It's definitely a good thin that unethical labor practices being…

Apple coopted every iPhone into a global surveillance network for the benefit of throwaway keychain tokens. That's why.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

#49
post #34

I guess I don't get it. For the price of an AirTag, you can buy a more capable tracker with GPS and mobile data. And it won't be notifying the trackee that it's there. The AirTag seems like a downgrade.

You absolutely can not. There are no GPS trackers for <$30 with an ~unlimited battery life and no subscription fees.

And there aren't any AirTags with the ability to track without notifying the target they are there. Trade-offs.

The point is valid, though. AirTags do not enable something which wasn't already trivial to accomplish. At best it just makes it more visible to the general public, but stalkers have known how to use inexpensive GPS trackers for many years.

What's dishonest is the media pretending that this is some new capability that didn't already exist.

Re: Silenced AirTags with disabled speakers are popping up for sale online

#50

Taping them together tightly silences it. Airtags have to be the most nerfed product I've bought. Day one, they were fantastic. Then they lowered the beeping and rogue alerts to a threshold my wife gets them from my keys or wallet all the time. Then they just beep randomly. I regret buying them to be honest. Tile never really got harped on for stalking. The samsung trackers work just as well as Apple and don't have a…

Maybe this a dumb question, but is the AirTag configured to Notify When Left Behind except when left at your home? I've never heard an AirTag beep before.
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