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Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by pmoriarty » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 5:08 PM UTC

mplanchard wrote: post #111

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #96

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They changed it last year. Now it’s a flower.

Yeah, a magnolia (the state tree and flower). So much better!

For some context:

"The flag of Mississippi features a white magnolia blossom surrounded by the words "In God We Trust" and 21 stars, on a red field with a gold-bordered blue pale. It was adopted on January 11, 2021 and replaced the previous flag that displayed the Confederate battle insignia in the upper left hand corner, which had been retired on June 30, 2020."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Mississippi

Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by pmoriarty » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 5:16 PM UTC

ryandvm wrote: post #153

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It's usually either CBD or Delta-8. It's legal because of the Farm Bill a few years back that legalized hemp, making CBD and D8 legal in the process. Just to be clear though, this stuff won't get you high like weed. You might feel a little more relaxed because of the CBD but that's about it.

> Just to be clear though, this stuff won't get you high like weed You are absolutely incorrect. From a psychoactive perspective, delta-8 is pretty much indistinguishable from pure THC (a.k.a. delta-9). In my experience the difference is mostly about quantity; it takes about 30% more delta-8.

Unfortunately -- and this should be made absolutely clear -- that unlike cannabis itself, there has been little use of delta-8 THC throughout human history.

Its recent use is a sad consequence of the government making a relatively harmless compound illegal and driving users to use novel compounds with unknown (or even averse) safety profiles.

The long-term effects of delta-8 THC use are currently unknown, and you are basically volunteering to be a guinea pig by using it.

Much safer to use cannabis itself (and ideally grow it yourself, so you really know what you're getting).

Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by beepbooptheory » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 5:17 PM UTC

zozbot234 wrote: post #155

beepbooptheory wrote: post #57

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It absolutely is not. It used to be, I guess. Yes, people there, generally, are less overtly racist and bigoted, and there is some cool infrastructure, but it trades in rural isolationist prejudice for tech-tainted delusional world building, at the cost of its once beautiful community and culture. Austin is scary, I have never lived in a city that so clearly feels like it has a mind of its own, that changes so much a…

Say anything about "extreme and swift gentrification", but that's a side-effect of success. At least Texas does not have the restrictive zoning and NIMBY politics that make gentrification so much more of an issue in Blue states.

Unfortunately, Austin is utterly rife with nimbyism, and even worse, whatever the inverse of it is: new people moving into fancy apartments downtown, and then being angry that they hear the loud music so late at night, from the venues that were there way before them! Retroactive nimby? The venues that have survived are still good, but so so many were lost to residential development. Don't even get me started!

It was a few years ago, but even the nationally recognized, Beard-award winning bbq darling Franklin BBQ was going to be affected by smoke ordinances, because the new development that cropped up around it, and the existence of lots of bbq smoke. Not sure what came of it, but people were quite vocal.

Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by JaimeThompson » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 5:20 PM UTC

moate wrote: post #142

JaimeThompson wrote: post #51

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If the religious faction can get over the leaders they supporting lying and cheating all the time they can get over people smoking a plant.

If only that's how psychology worked...

Well you aren't wrong.

Sadly.

Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by pmoriarty » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 5:26 PM UTC

moate wrote: post #147

lariati wrote: post #79

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Why pick on the states at this point. It is utterly absurd there is not more a push to legalize at the Federal level.

Part of the lack of Federal push is because many individual states/industries have interests in it not happening. And one thing about the way the US has things set up, the States often function as the laboratories for social experiments. That's why you get things like Colorado being the first to legalize weed and Texas attempting to soft-ban abortion.

"Part of the lack of Federal push is because many individual states/industries have interests in it not happening."

Many individual states had an interest in keeping slavery and segregation alive, and yet they were made illegal on the federal level.

Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by dmitryminkovsky » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 5:31 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #10

When will we start seeing legislation forbidding employer discrimination against legal cannabis users in the form of drug tests? No one cares if you've had a drink over the weekend, on your own time, as long as it's not affecting your on-the-job performance. Some companies have parties where alcohol is served, and going for drinks after work is quite common. Yet so many companies require you to take drug tests before…

Amazon is working on this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/26/why-amazo...

Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by pmoriarty » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 5:34 PM UTC

whalesalad wrote: post #128

the_doctah wrote: post #114

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Listen, I'm a big legalization supporter, but comparing cannabis to tomatoes is silly and disingenuous. Tomatoes don't get you high.

Doesn’t matter at all in the context of freedom. Live and let live.

Exactly.

Cognitive freedom is the real issue.

People should be free to do to their own bodies and minds whatever they like, without government interference.

Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by wffurr » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 5:52 PM UTC

refurb wrote: post #85

wffurr wrote: post #82

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Mississippi's main role is to make Alabama be second from the bottom in state-by-state rankings. I say this having grown up in Alabama and gone to university in Mississippi.

Self-hating

Got nothing to do with myself. I self-hate myself for lots of other reasons than having grown up in a particular place, as does anyone with a modicum of self awareness.

There's a lot of things I love about Alabama. Even the state government occasionally gets things right, like universal pre-K. But they have a long way to go.

Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 6:48 PM UTC

dahfizz wrote: post #150

pmoriarty wrote: post #10

When will we start seeing legislation forbidding employer discrimination against legal cannabis users in the form of drug tests? No one cares if you've had a drink over the weekend, on your own time, as long as it's not affecting your on-the-job performance. Some companies have parties where alcohol is served, and going for drinks after work is quite common. Yet so many companies require you to take drug tests before…

The biggest barrier here is testing, IMO. There is no reliable way to tell if you are under the influence of marijuana _right now_. The only way an employer can guarantee you are sober while working (to shield themselves from liability) is to give a traditional drug test.

Are there reliable ways to tell if you are under the influence of other drugs other than alcohol? Can a similar test be provided for opiates, hallucinogens like DMT and other substances? Cocaine won't show up after a few days, but MJ will show up for weeks after usage.

Re: Mississippi is 37th state to legalize medical marijuana

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 6:53 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #165

moate wrote: post #147

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Part of the lack of Federal push is because many individual states/industries have interests in it not happening. And one thing about the way the US has things set up, the States often function as the laboratories for social experiments. That's why you get things like Colorado being the first to legalize weed and Texas attempting to soft-ban abortion.

"Part of the lack of Federal push is because many individual states/industries have interests in it not happening." Many individual states had an interest in keeping slavery and segregation alive, and yet they were made illegal on the federal level.

And because of that impending banning of slavery, the South decided to bolt, instead of wait for the westward expansion of non-slavery friendly states to be added to the government.