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Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by dijit » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 10:09 AM UTC

quartesixte wrote: post #38

mikestew wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except Teams existed before things got all COVIDy. Back then I even defended Teams when we had just moved off Slack. I mean, it wasn't great and the Mac client blows goats, but it gets the job done. And then we all started working from home, and using Teams for more than just a glorified chat app. That's when it became evident to me that my defense of Teams was way unwarranted.

Our company uses teams more or less as a glorified chat app and it does a good job at it. Teams is also the default way we call each other (phone number syncing is hot garbage and everyone has unlimited data on their work phones), and video conferencing via teams is acceptable. It helps that we have a No Camera culture, so we don’t often deal with buggy video processing problems. Anything important is to be put in an…

Have you professionally used anything other than microsoft products for internal communication?

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:39 PM UTC

nneonneo wrote: post #29

The Teams Mac app is hot garbage. Every third or so meeting it will randomly hang, logout, hang up immediately, or even straight up crash when attempting to join a call. I’ve reinstalled it multiple times, cycled the sign in, all to no avail. And this has been happening for meetings throughout the entirety of last year! Zoom has never given me a lick of trouble and I use it for at least 10x the meetings. I try to red…

At least it's not webex.

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by hulitu » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 7:22 PM UTC

YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #42

nneonneo wrote: post #29

The Teams Mac app is hot garbage. Every third or so meeting it will randomly hang, logout, hang up immediately, or even straight up crash when attempting to join a call. I’ve reinstalled it multiple times, cycled the sign in, all to no avail. And this has been happening for meetings throughout the entirety of last year! Zoom has never given me a lick of trouble and I use it for at least 10x the meetings. I try to red…

At least it's not webex.

I used webex only for conferences but, unlike Teams it could do full screen display of the shared screen. In teams it is very important that a rectangle with the initials of your conference partner occupies half the screen. It's almost hilarious that Microsoft things that auto hiding things in Word or excel is ok (scrollbar, ribbon) but in Teams you are literarly forced to see every crap without the possibility to hide it (a big title/ menu bar, big rectangles with initials of conference participants). Teams is the worst screen sharing program i have ever seen.

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by quartesixte » Sun, Feb 06, 2022, 8:03 AM UTC

dijit wrote: post #41

quartesixte wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our company uses teams more or less as a glorified chat app and it does a good job at it. Teams is also the default way we call each other (phone number syncing is hot garbage and everyone has unlimited data on their work phones), and video conferencing via teams is acceptable. It helps that we have a No Camera culture, so we don’t often deal with buggy video processing problems. Anything important is to be put in an…

Have you professionally used anything other than microsoft products for internal communication?

To be honest, I have not. Every company I have worked for or had extensive relations with were an Outlook oriented company.

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by dijit » Sun, Feb 06, 2022, 2:54 PM UTC

quartesixte wrote: post #44

dijit wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you professionally used anything other than microsoft products for internal communication?

To be honest, I have not. Every company I have worked for or had extensive relations with were an Outlook oriented company.

No judgement at all.

I often find the people that actually enjoy teams have never really used anything other than Microsoft messaging solutions professionally.

I usually speculate that it’s because people have never seen anything better than what Microsoft can put out, but there’s the possibility that the way you think about things when that’s your entire ecosystem is different than the way I do.

What I’m saying is: I’m not saying that you’re wrong for liking it, I’m saying that we can be different; and the bigger annoyance is that these closed platforms do not permit client choice. Maybe.