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Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by Sylamore »

stefan_ wrote: post #12
prometheus76 wrote: post #3

Here's another fun path I went down: I was wondering why contractions were always marked as misspellings. Wanted to edit the dictionary. Can't do that. Turns out, Microsoft Teams has an undocumented hard-coded link to the dictionary from Chromium builds and uses that for its dictionary. You can turn off spell check, but there's no custom dictionary, and there's no way to edit the dictionary. I'm convinced that Micoro…

When you rip it open you'll find Skype for a heart.

That heart has been transplanted so many times from the client formerly known as Skype for Business, formerly known as Lync, formerly known as Microsoft Office Communicator, formerly known as Live Communications Server, formerly known as Exchange Conferencing.

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by weq »

vba616 wrote: post #13

Is it possible that Microsoft is processing the content of messages in Teams and using it to enhance targeting (by salespeople and recruiters) of the conversation participants on LinkedIn? I expect ridicule, but I've seen some peculiar coincidences recently.

Agreed. Microsofts enterprise penetration is ever growing and teams is a new hub in the spoke. If you enroll a mac, its auto-installed.

Worst parts for me is its shitty keyboard hijacking and its uncanny ability to eaves-drop on me with its buggy phone / bluetooth integration (often teams will hijack the input signals and turn on the mic without prompting)

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by ragebol »

tryauuum wrote: post #33

It's crazy that pasting code in teams doesn't work. You can prepend code with "``` "to get monospace font. But leading whitespace will be magically eaten

Worst is: if you type some comment, then the ```, then some code and ``` to close it off, it shows an empty code block below the closing backticks.

MS Teams is pushed by people who have never used or known anything better and are only using it because they already have it installed. And are network-effect pushing in on everyone else. I absolutely hate it.

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nneonneo wrote: post #29

The Teams Mac app is hot garbage. Every third or so meeting it will randomly hang, logout, hang up immediately, or even straight up crash when attempting to join a call. I’ve reinstalled it multiple times, cycled the sign in, all to no avail. And this has been happening for meetings throughout the entirety of last year! Zoom has never given me a lick of trouble and I use it for at least 10x the meetings. I try to red…

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Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by ranguna »

nneonneo wrote: post #29

The Teams Mac app is hot garbage. Every third or so meeting it will randomly hang, logout, hang up immediately, or even straight up crash when attempting to join a call. I’ve reinstalled it multiple times, cycled the sign in, all to no avail. And this has been happening for meetings throughout the entirety of last year! Zoom has never given me a lick of trouble and I use it for at least 10x the meetings. I try to red…

Yes teams sucks, but zoom web fails for me as well. After 10 minutes or so, my audio is disconnected with no way to turn it back on other than reloading the page.

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

fingerlocks wrote: post #22
detaro wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because FAANG is originally a stock market term for (at the time) hot tech stocks, and Microsoft was already old and boring.

And ironically, in the last several years MSFT stock has outperformed nearly all of FAANG, the exception being Apple

And it's easy to see why. They're dominating nearly everything besides streaming, mobile and social media. Windows, WSL, VS Code, X-Box, Azure, Outlook, Office 365, Teams, etc.

It's pretty difficult to be a white collar working adult and not be forced to interact with at least one Microsoft product on a daily basis whether you enjoy it or not. Thier network effect in the corporate world is basically a black hole at this point. We tried at one gig to go all-in on Linux on our laptops but gave up after so many of our customers were using Office, SharePoint and Teams to colaborate and expected us to join in with the same tools. We lost the battle before it even began.

Too bad they royally fucked up the last mobile OS attempt many years ago. Ironically, I quite enjoyed the experience. The UX felt really polished and their mobile OS ran so buttery smooth even on HW that Android at the time wouldn't even dream of running.

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by quartesixte »

mikestew wrote: post #9
prometheus76 wrote: post #3

Here's another fun path I went down: I was wondering why contractions were always marked as misspellings. Wanted to edit the dictionary. Can't do that. Turns out, Microsoft Teams has an undocumented hard-coded link to the dictionary from Chromium builds and uses that for its dictionary. You can turn off spell check, but there's no custom dictionary, and there's no way to edit the dictionary. I'm convinced that Micoro…

Except Teams existed before things got all COVIDy. Back then I even defended Teams when we had just moved off Slack. I mean, it wasn't great and the Mac client blows goats, but it gets the job done. And then we all started working from home, and using Teams for more than just a glorified chat app. That's when it became evident to me that my defense of Teams was way unwarranted.

Our company uses teams more or less as a glorified chat app and it does a good job at it.

Teams is also the default way we call each other (phone number syncing is hot garbage and everyone has unlimited data on their work phones), and video conferencing via teams is acceptable. It helps that we have a No Camera culture, so we don’t often deal with buggy video processing problems.

Anything important is to be put in an email chain, and anything more permanent in the wiki system.

Seriously though, hearing the travails of Slack culture causing headaches and time wasting + degrading documentation standards, I think a glorified chat app is not so bad.

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by Deukhoofd »

nneonneo wrote: post #29

The Teams Mac app is hot garbage. Every third or so meeting it will randomly hang, logout, hang up immediately, or even straight up crash when attempting to join a call. I’ve reinstalled it multiple times, cycled the sign in, all to no avail. And this has been happening for meetings throughout the entirety of last year! Zoom has never given me a lick of trouble and I use it for at least 10x the meetings. I try to red…

Don't worry, it's trash on Windows too. From weird bugs like the Play/Pause media keys stopping/resuming the Teams call tune (even after meetings), to crap like clicking on images requiring a reload.

Re: Microsoft Teams; using one monopoly to aid another

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Post by dijit »

cstrance wrote: post #28

you can change the default meeting behavior, it isn't really a vendor lock in type situation, teams is included with office365 you don't have to use it if you don't want to but you need to set it up properly, company i'm at just started allowing teams meetings as we are transitioning away from webex due to costs, until the change was made it didn't matter what changes were made to gpo, you could restrict the addin su…

Hi there.

Please tell me how because my 5 man IT department apparently can’t find the button and googling is failing me too.

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