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Facebook loses users for the first time

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Facebook has been losing users for a long time, but has kept this hidden by only removing bot accounts sparingly, to mask their decline. But I guess the decline has become undeniable, but I suspect even now they're manipulating the statistics to dampen their fall.

Yup. Average daily users is such a meaningless stat. There’s a huge difference between spending 5 hours a day on Facebook, and briefly opening Messenger to respond to a single message, but both are equally considered a “daily user”

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I deleted my FB a while ago and it truely helped my online mental health. The fb feed was full of false news and hate speech. I reported as much as I could but nothing happening. There wasn't any regulations and I felt more toxic on the contents. I am not gonna lie there was a positive side like knowing the news instantly but It's not worth it apparently.

I actually didn't have any false news and hate speech in my feed - I used FB purity and consistently blocked all bad actors. I left the FB anyway, because it's has been a terrible platform for discussing anything even before the latest bout of censorship, but with redesigns, bans and constant intrusive hectoring about what I am supposed to be thinking is really getting old. It just became not good for anything but wasting time, and even that wasn't really enjoyable.

And there are so many other places to get news nowdays...

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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It's so interesting how different people's Facebook feeds are so different. I do have excessive ads for products, that's fair enough, but I have absolutely nothing political. My only issue with Facebook is that it's poorly designed, actually very dated and cluttered, and none of my friends really use it for personal posts except me. I suspect that each Facebook user exists in a different bubble. Possibly they see som…

FB is RSS for non-tech content. In my experience FB is what you make it to be. It requires some curration effort but you can mold it to be useful. But you can’t just add, you’ll have to block as well, including ads - each ad source can be turned off. For me, FB is the main source of news about local concerts. Sure, you’ll find about major ones anyway, but there’s no way to effectively track small ones. It doesn’t hav…

If concert info is what keeps you on the platform, you can kick FB out of your life with Bandsintown.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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I deleted my FB a while ago and it truely helped my online mental health. The fb feed was full of false news and hate speech. I reported as much as I could but nothing happening. There wasn't any regulations and I felt more toxic on the contents. I am not gonna lie there was a positive side like knowing the news instantly but It's not worth it apparently.

If others are looking to keep up with news in a low key way (including the OP), I'd highly recommend this approach that's been working well for me.

  1. Create an instagram account to follow just one account. 
  2. Follow an account called @mosheh. It's run by a former CBS News Producer [1]
  3. 1x or 2x per day, go through his stories.
No affiliation but I'd highly recommend this approach for those that are already on instagram or want to use the platform to keep up with the news. He aggregates news stories from most major news sources and in a couple of minutes you can be informed of what's happening around the world.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosheh_Oinounou

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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I deleted my FB a while ago and it truely helped my online mental health. The fb feed was full of false news and hate speech. I reported as much as I could but nothing happening. There wasn't any regulations and I felt more toxic on the contents. I am not gonna lie there was a positive side like knowing the news instantly but It's not worth it apparently.

I have seen zero hate speech, but I mostly use FB to share pictures of my kids.

Why use FB for that and not a picture sharing site, just out of interest?

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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I have seen zero hate speech, but I mostly use FB to share pictures of my kids.

Why use FB for that and not a picture sharing site, just out of interest?

The people he'd like to show the pictures to are all conveniently aggregated on FB, but not on the picture sharing site.

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The big reason behind losses was likely the iOS 14 tracking update. Right after it a ton of Facebook Advertisers groups on Facebook started complaining all of their carefully crafted campaigns were not producing revenue anymore. Targeting and regathering stopped making sales for advertisers and they quickly stopped spending on FB. The people who still spend are now doing videos as ads. Small advertisers were the cana…

No. The real reason behind the losses is that TikTok became the number 1 app in the world today, and is directly taking away social engagement time from Instagram and Facebook. Heck, Zuckerberg admitted it himself in a post today:

"[...] there are two things that I want to call out that are having an impact on our business. The first is competition. People have a lot of choices for how they want to spend their time and apps like TikTok are growing very quickly."

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If that's what your friends were sharing then maybe you need better friends?

Maybe I’m old school, but there’s usually more to someone than what they share on Facebook. One of the funniest people I know, and a good real life friend for nearly a two two decades, posts dumb stuff like that all the time. We also have great conversations full of conflicting viewpoints, which I love, and we’ve both changed the others perspectives. I don’t really care what their political beliefs or medical choices…

Posts dumb stuff like fake news and hate speech?

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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And thus begins their gamble. They’re going to have to bet the entire biz on virtual. Most public companies can’t do this, but FB has a unique control structure that gives Zuck the ability to bet the farm.

Does anyone else find this on the level of batshit crazy insane? Meta, are we really going to divest so far from the physical world that the a virtual reality is worth that much? I mean VR is realistically a video game. I just don't see it but I do see desperation from FB.

It’s totally a batshit Hail Mary. Like it’s total vaporware at this point. Where is this metaverse? Where do I log in?

It’s all marketing hype and it’s creating dreams in peoples heads that will come crashing down when they actually use whatever this product is. Because whatever they ship, whenever they ship it, will be a thing that is huge and has little knowledge of what it’s market fit will be.

They aren’t starting small and nimble like a startup. They are betting huge high stakes games with almost no real market testing.

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