Live data from Hacker News

Facebook loses users for the first time

washingtonpost.com

361–370 of 1001 posts

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#361
post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's what your friends were sharing then maybe you need better friends?

Social media worsens people’s perceptions of the world can actively influences what they share and consider their own opinion. The same point applies to family, for example, and whether I need better family or not they’re all I’ve got. And Facebook has pushed them really far down whatever fringe they had a slight inclination to. Before Facebook any extreme views could be tempered a bit in family conversations, but no…

I still have mostly kids and puppies. Occasionally some not especially funny jokes.

YMMV

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#362
post #327

I deleted my FB a while ago and it truely helped my online mental health. The fb feed was full of false news and hate speech. I reported as much as I could but nothing happening. There wasn't any regulations and I felt more toxic on the contents. I am not gonna lie there was a positive side like knowing the news instantly but It's not worth it apparently.

If your FB feed is full of false news and hate speech, that says a lot about who your “friends” are.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#363
post #327

I deleted my FB a while ago and it truely helped my online mental health. The fb feed was full of false news and hate speech. I reported as much as I could but nothing happening. There wasn't any regulations and I felt more toxic on the contents. I am not gonna lie there was a positive side like knowing the news instantly but It's not worth it apparently.

Why not just stop visiting FB?

You might lose access to things you logged in with "Login with Facebook" or lose out on some connections that are only on FB. Doom-scrolling FB is a bad idea, but whenever I log in to FB, I do it with a purpose (usually to text someone on FB)

That's a big jump from the time when typing "facebook" in the address bar used to almost be a reflex on opening a new tab.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#364
post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is for old people. Instagram is for moderately old people. Snapchat is for moderately young people. TikTok is for young people.

Everyone uses Instagram, teens most of all.

Eh… anecdotes are anecdotal, but in my experience the only reason people use Instagram is for messenger. Almost everyone is on Instagram, so it makes it really easy to connect with people. Kind of like a giant phonebook.

I almost never see any of my friends posting on Instagram anymore. The only ones that do are artists and people with some “personal brand” to promote (aka, they have a business interest in posting to IG). Some more people post on stories, but even that’s rare.

Like Facebook, most people I know hate using Instagram, so I figure it’s only a matter of time before it’s engagement numbers go down.

I’m in my 20s for reference.

I feel like in the coming years we’ll see these Gen Z kids almost entirely eschew posting on social media. Most young people I know are almost entirely socializing with their friends via messaging apps, while very rarely making posts on social media. Instagram will fade from relevance for the youth, much like Facebook, and I don’t expect that any social media platform will replace it. Yes, TikTok is popular, but it’s more akin to YouTube that twitter/Facebook/Instagram.

We’ll probably see some dramatic headlines about “the death of the social network” at some point over the next few years. Messaging will be the future of digital socializing.

I think this is ultimately driven by young people coming to the realization that posting to social media is either completely unfulfilling, or actively detrimental to their mental well being. Platform owners thought they could ignore the issue, without considering that their target demographic may very well just reject social networking all together.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#365
post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's what your friends were sharing then maybe you need better friends?

Social media worsens people’s perceptions of the world can actively influences what they share and consider their own opinion. The same point applies to family, for example, and whether I need better family or not they’re all I’ve got. And Facebook has pushed them really far down whatever fringe they had a slight inclination to. Before Facebook any extreme views could be tempered a bit in family conversations, but no…

But either way, is FB really to blame for your family’s lack of discernment?

I’ve set plenty of family members to “unfollow” so I don’t have to deal with their craziness. I’m also not above to distancing myself from crazy family members in real life.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#366
post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's what your friends were sharing then maybe you need better friends?

Have you ever used Facebook? You see divisive rage-bait garbage regardless of whether your connections specifically shared it. The Algorithm(tm) decides what you see, and it favors whatever is as "engagement"-worthy as possible.

Yes I've been using Facebook several times per week for years. I have hundreds of friends there and don't really see any divisive rage-bait garbage, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about. Maybe you're using it wrong?

What I have done is "Hide all from" most of the pages that show up in my feed. So I mostly only see original content posted by my friends and very little shared from other pages like the fake news on CNN or whatever.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#367
post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fall into a 3rd category: I used to log into FB once a month or so to check in. For some reason, they decided I was a fake account (despite working for them for 4.5 years) and asked for my ID. The resolution on my 10-year-old MBP was too low for FB's contractors so they rejected my ID 3 times and I seem to now be locked out of my account indefinitely. Definitely in the top 10 best thing to ever happen to me.

> despite working for them for 4.5 years wow.

Eh, I'd be more surprised/concerned if the Facebook user table had a special flag for whether someone was or ever had been an employee.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#368
post #327

I deleted my FB a while ago and it truely helped my online mental health. The fb feed was full of false news and hate speech. I reported as much as I could but nothing happening. There wasn't any regulations and I felt more toxic on the contents. I am not gonna lie there was a positive side like knowing the news instantly but It's not worth it apparently.

I recently reported a hate speech targeted at Indian minority (not Muslim). The text literally had gen$c!d3 threats and other usual trigger words in it, and there were like copy paste of same post in thousands (probably a campaign). Facebook replied "does not violate their conditions blah blah".

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#369
post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's what your friends were sharing then maybe you need better friends?

Social media worsens people’s perceptions of the world can actively influences what they share and consider their own opinion. The same point applies to family, for example, and whether I need better family or not they’re all I’ve got. And Facebook has pushed them really far down whatever fringe they had a slight inclination to. Before Facebook any extreme views could be tempered a bit in family conversations, but no…

To be fair this is true of most online platforms. It's easy to go down the slippery slope of always doubling down on defending your argument and never admitting to be wrong. People who get caught up in this cycle can end up in psych wards, no joke

On a different note, I joined FB as part of my college's freshmen induction class. It was "part of the course". I imagine Mark really pulled some favors from his frat bros to get that going

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

#370
post #327

I deleted my FB a while ago and it truely helped my online mental health. The fb feed was full of false news and hate speech. I reported as much as I could but nothing happening. There wasn't any regulations and I felt more toxic on the contents. I am not gonna lie there was a positive side like knowing the news instantly but It's not worth it apparently.

If your FB feed is full of false news and hate speech, that says a lot about who your “friends” are.

It says a lot too about FB having no qualms in amplifying and profiting from propaganda and hate.
Post reply on HN