Facebook loses users for the first time • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by stadium » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 2:59 AM UTC

rubicon33 wrote: post #155

stadium wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They finally monitized their products and customers to a breaking point. They run on engagement metrics without common sense or empathy to how fear and anger impact their user's wellbeing. I most definitely do not need or want a VR immersed version of that toxicity.

VR has nothing to do with facebook, at least at the moment. Just logging in with your facebook account doesn't mean its suddenly sucking all your life from you and piping it right to facebook. If you enjoy video games, its hands down the best way to game right now.

Guilt by association. I won't touch it. Sooner or later all that usage data would be used to manipulate me.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by nyxtom » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:00 AM UTC

I used facebook for a brief period only because I was trying to sell some stuff on the marketplace. That being said marketplace is a crapshoot most of the time it seems so it ended up not working out. Every time I visited that cesspool of a website I regretted it immediately. Had to add a stylus script to disable loads of unwanted content

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by vorpalhex » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:05 AM UTC

dustintrex wrote: post #86

GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

Facebook has been primarily displaced by Tiktok, which is considerably more addictive than FB. It's like zonking out in front of cable TV in the olden days, if the cable TV had access to an essentially unlimited content library of short-form dopamine hits, was capable of determining exactly what you like, and showing you exactly that forever.

TikTok, for it's many faults, is at least not ragebait farming. It is distracting junk. Facebook feels more malicious in my mind.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by mmaunder » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:05 AM UTC

notyourwork wrote: post #206

mmaunder wrote: post #194

And thus begins their gamble. They’re going to have to bet the entire biz on virtual. Most public companies can’t do this, but FB has a unique control structure that gives Zuck the ability to bet the farm.

Does anyone else find this on the level of batshit crazy insane? Meta, are we really going to divest so far from the physical world that the a virtual reality is worth that much? I mean VR is realistically a video game. I just don't see it but I do see desperation from FB.

Then you’ve never experienced how transformative VR is and you lack vision.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by agumonkey » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:06 AM UTC

dustintrex wrote: post #86

GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

Facebook has been primarily displaced by Tiktok, which is considerably more addictive than FB. It's like zonking out in front of cable TV in the olden days, if the cable TV had access to an essentially unlimited content library of short-form dopamine hits, was capable of determining exactly what you like, and showing you exactly that forever.

Surprisingly this time the dopamine providers are .. us.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by r0fl » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:06 AM UTC

Calist0 wrote: post #208

They lost 3 million active users out of 1.93 billion active users. That's 0.15%? As countries are opening up more. And that's newsworthy? I don't see how that justifies the stock crashing -25% in 15 minutes.

Trillion dollar tech giants are expected to GROW to justify their valuations.

Look at the numbers alphabet and apple posted the last few days. Huge growth.

Facebook is not only growing but much worse, shrinking.

I’ve been bullish on FB from the ipo date but this seems like the beginning of the end unless the meta verse is out of this world

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by t_serpico » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:06 AM UTC

ProAm wrote: post #10

When the metaverse actually launches they will skyrocket. They were smart to pivot early. Saying the 'metaverse' is on FB right now is similar to people selling acres on the Moon before anyone landed. FB is planting an imaginary flag on the 'metaverse' hoping they can technically catch up to their claims and capitalize on it.

I think renaming was a massive strategic mistake. The metaverse, even if it succeeds from a technical standpoint, will need to be deemed 'cool' for people to adopt it. And generally, if you have something cool, you don't prematurely blurt it out to the rest of the world.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:07 AM UTC

Damogran6 wrote: post #90

I went back to my forums, find myself easily disengaging from Reddit (around the election, Reddit was nothing but stress), Check Twitter maybe 10 minutes a week, go to Instagram once a week because my kid posts his artwork there. But in general, ALL of the sticky sites aren’t…sticky anymore. I took 2 weeks off at the worst of it and it did an amazing job of breaking the feedback loop. Facebook tried to take over foru…

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by Nbox9 » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:11 AM UTC

monkeybutton wrote: post #2

Its already frustrating enough having to use Facebook just to look up a restaurant's information, the set times for a concert, or whatever about a local business or event. If all that stuff starts to disappear behind a meta-verse wall, I might just leap off the nearest bridge instead.

If you call a local business you can usually get that sort of information without logging into facebook.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by tasty_freeze » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 3:12 AM UTC

IronWolve wrote: post #125

Facebook suspended the official washington state republican group multiple times for posts, they finally moved over to mewe. Facebook is a shadow of what it use to be after running off everyone.

> Facebook is a shadow of what it use to be after running off everyone.

Yes, everyone ran off, leaving only 1.9B subscribers.