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Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by spywaregorilla »

Victerius wrote: post #13
ProAm wrote: post #10

When the metaverse actually launches they will skyrocket. They were smart to pivot early. Saying the 'metaverse' is on FB right now is similar to people selling acres on the Moon before anyone landed. FB is planting an imaginary flag on the 'metaverse' hoping they can technically catch up to their claims and capitalize on it.

I predict the Metaverse will fail, and fail early. It will be Google Plus, but worse. No one I personally know cares about Metaverse, including young people and Facebook users.

I agree. It doesn't carry anything intrinsically interesting. You'd have far more luck porting VR into an existing popular game that is fun and making it more of a social hang out scene. You'll struggle greatly trying to make it a mainstream social media platform. Imagine a social media player that you could only log into from your computer at home.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by leonidasv »

woodruffw wrote: post #48
systemvoltage wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is just me or there seems to be a strange lack of criticism about TikTok on the same or stricter level than FB. Especially that it is a Chinese company HQ’ed in Beijing. Neither do I ever see discussion about the asymmetry in China’s trade policies with regards to FB/Tiktok. Tiktok enjoys free market access (except India), whereas FB is banned in China just like many other US-based platforms. On the contrary, ther…

I don't use either service, but it's my impression that the misinformation on TikTok is more on the "petty harm to individuals" level and less on the "destroys the social and political fabric of societies" level.

There are tons of questionable political propaganda in Tiktok too.

It's not just a kids app anymore, if you start dismissing content aimed at teenagers, you quickly get into a bubble of content made for more mature audiences: daddy jokes, bloopers, political content and more. It's surprising the number of creators above 20, 30 and more years old there.

In my country, there are even congressmen and runner-ups that post content there daily.

Anyway, the problem with it, in my opinion, is how content is promoted in the app. The next video is just a swipe away (and every time an user swipes too early, you loose "points"). It encourages sensationalist and alarmist content, the creator must keep the audience engajed without swiping it, so the more chocking, the best - just like any other social media platform nowadays. And that's where the fabric of society starts ripping.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by jacobolus »

willbw wrote: post #92
chrisseaton wrote: post #68

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Wow I had no idea Americans used to drink more coffee than now. Surely serving sizes have grown and grown - absolutely nobody was having a 20-ounce coffee in 1946, but now that's normal. Doesn't seem to add up but I'm sure you're right.

I am assume this doesn't refer to "volume of coffee beverage" consumed. As far as I'm aware only the US seems to gravitate towards these extremely large coffee beverages. Other nations drink more coffee, but in smaller serving sizes less diluted by milk/sugar. Perhaps the US used to drink espressos in the 1940s, I'm not sure. That's if this fact is even accurate.

In 1940, 70% of all coffee grown in the world was drunk in the USA, according to https://espressocoffeeguide.com/all-about-coffee-2/worlds-be... (obviously WWII had a big impact on global supply chains and consumer spending)

US consumption in 1946 was apparently ~20 pounds of coffee beans annually per capita, or an average of around 2.5–3 (8 oz?) cups of coffee per day for the ~3/4 of adults who were regular coffee drinkers.

Per https://www.retrowow.co.uk/food_and_drink/coffee/coffee.html

> Most people [in the UK] made coffee in a jug. You boiled the water and added it to ground coffee already in the jug. You let the ground coffee settle and it was ready to pour through a strainer and drink. Some people then boiled the coffee again.

My impression is that coffee preparation was comparable in the USA. Neither paper filters nor instant coffee were common until decades later.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

willbw wrote: post #92
chrisseaton wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow I had no idea Americans used to drink more coffee than now. Surely serving sizes have grown and grown - absolutely nobody was having a 20-ounce coffee in 1946, but now that's normal. Doesn't seem to add up but I'm sure you're right.

I am assume this doesn't refer to "volume of coffee beverage" consumed. As far as I'm aware only the US seems to gravitate towards these extremely large coffee beverages. Other nations drink more coffee, but in smaller serving sizes less diluted by milk/sugar. Perhaps the US used to drink espressos in the 1940s, I'm not sure. That's if this fact is even accurate.

> Perhaps the US used to drink espressos in the 1940s, I'm not sure. That's if this fact is even accurate.

Espresso was unknown in America back then. Rumor has it that GIs, when exposed to it, diluted it with hot water, giving us the modern Americano. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caff%C3%A8_Americano

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Post by numpad0 »

zwieback wrote: post #32
systemvoltage wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is just me or there seems to be a strange lack of criticism about TikTok on the same or stricter level than FB. Especially that it is a Chinese company HQ’ed in Beijing. Neither do I ever see discussion about the asymmetry in China’s trade policies with regards to FB/Tiktok. Tiktok enjoys free market access (except India), whereas FB is banned in China just like many other US-based platforms. On the contrary, ther…

I think it's because of the perception TikTok=cat and dance videos, FB=misinformation. At least that's what my feeds looks like. Also: TikTok=kids, FB=adults

Could “misinformation” be a misnomer? I think the problem is in the way it’s consumed that is similar to a rhyme or a chant, rather than accuracies of information contained therein.
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