You'll see links to F.lux [0] occasionally on HN, but I can't overstate how F.lux has changed my life. Before F.lux, my laptop would suck me in. I would browse HN, Metafilter, and Twitter even as my eyes stung and my head felt like a bag of sand. Eventually I would go to bed at 3am, confused about how time flew by so quickly. The next morning was always rough. Some days I would wake up at 8am and arrive at work on ti…
Can't overstate this. For some reason Flux got deactivated on my computer. I just found out. The last nights my sleep shift has shifted and shifted. Until 6am bed time. Go figure. For mornings, esp. in winter, I use a day light lamp [1]. Highly recommended. [1] http://www.philips.co.uk/c/light-therapy/golite-blu-recharge...
Why Entrepreneurs Can't Sleep
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#221) This was happening even when I was a developer and not just an entrepreneur. It is because when you are working on a problem, you want to reach a "save state" before going away. So you can pick up where you left off in the morning. Sometimes you think the "save state" is just an hour away and it turns out to be 3 hours or more. Basically you have the context in your head NOW and it's annoying to have to serialize it into something and unserialize it later. You want to at least finish a subtask. As a result, the "bedtime" of a developer is indefinite, unlike in 9-5 careers where you can clock out and stop thinking about things.
For entrepreneurs, this is a smaller problem, but for developer-entrepreneurs, it is a combined problem. The entrepreneur might be puzzle-solving at night as well, and doesn't want to have to serialize/unserialize in some arbitrary state. Also their brain gets used to problem solving and can't stop. Kind of like this: http://xkcd.com/356/
2) Now, the second reason is that we are probably young, in our 20s or early 30s. As a result, we came out of a college environment and late night partying is important to younger people. Late night anything, because one again, that is the time that young people have for themselves and they don't want to put a definite curfew on it. You can be more irresponsible earlier in life, drinking and socializing until late. In addition, many young people have to study in college and aren't gonna get fired if they don't show up at 8 AM to work, so once again we have this "I don't want to put this book down until I've finished the chapter" thing.
As you get older and have a family, if you have to wake up early, then your habits will change.
I also have a theory that young people have ALWAYS been more nocturnal than their elders, who become morning people at 70 :)
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#23Theory 5: Hackers are always on their devices so they experience the effects of inappropriate light at night to a greater extent.
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#24I can't speak for everyone, but for some it's a case of never being able to get your brain to shut down properly from a work point of view, which can be both the reason for sleep problems and the reason for success. My current boss summed it up once when he said "the reason I'm always working outside hours [he works most evenings, will often get an email from him at 3am, most days a call sometime between 8pm and midn…
I've found my poor sleep correlates with how late I'm working on a problem. I try to go to bed around 11pm. If I'm done working by 6pm I'm more likely to sleep ok. 8pm is pushing it. Any later than that the problem won't be out of my head by the time I lay down, and it stays there all night.
This happened two nights ago. I was coding something fairly complex and had a hard time connecting everything together. It was something I had been struggling with for two weeks. In a dream, I figured out how to make things much simpler. The next morning I deleted 1000 lines of code, re-structured things, and got it working succinctly.
But you definitely don't sleep very well when you do it. :)
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is really better than any donation. :)
+1 for "changed my life." Seriously, but for f.lux I would probably have sought medical treatment for persistent insomnia. (And when I swapped laptops recently and stupidly put off installation I had two months of Zomg Schedule Hell before remembering "Oh yeah, this acharacteristic inability to sleep is exactly like life before flux ".)
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#26You'll see links to F.lux [0] occasionally on HN, but I can't overstate how F.lux has changed my life. Before F.lux, my laptop would suck me in. I would browse HN, Metafilter, and Twitter even as my eyes stung and my head felt like a bag of sand. Eventually I would go to bed at 3am, confused about how time flew by so quickly. The next morning was always rough. Some days I would wake up at 8am and arrive at work on ti…
If you like F.lux and you're an OSX user, I'd also recommend using it with Toggle Screenshade [http://screenshade.en.softonic.com/mac]. It doesn't change the color composition like F.lux does. It just reduces the brightness of the monitor well below OSX default minimum. It's shocking little light that gets through. Give yourself 2 minutes to adjust in a dark room, and you'll still be able to see the monitor, but with much less light intrusion on your body.
Second, if you're getting hardcore on this. You should also buy a orange plastic screen shade from Low Blue Lights [https://www.lowbluelights.com/products.asp?cid=16] or make one yourself. I have one rubber-banded to my monitor at night. It ~triples the effect of Flux.
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#27I keep hearing about how blue light in the morning helps you wake up and have more energy throughout the day. Does anyone have experience with this product: http://www.amazon.com/Philips-goLITE-BLU-Therapy-Device/dp/B...
Instead I'm going for exposure to any light in the morning and breaking the fast with a small snack.
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#28Theory 5: Hackers are always on their devices so they experience the effects of inappropriate light at night to a greater extent.
Wouldn't the same be true of someone who watched a lot of TV?
Yes, obviously there are many non-hackers who have this problem. Just thought it was funny it wasn't one of the hypotheses listed, given that it's directly related to the cause of this guy's insomnia.
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#29You'll see links to F.lux [0] occasionally on HN, but I can't overstate how F.lux has changed my life. Before F.lux, my laptop would suck me in. I would browse HN, Metafilter, and Twitter even as my eyes stung and my head felt like a bag of sand. Eventually I would go to bed at 3am, confused about how time flew by so quickly. The next morning was always rough. Some days I would wake up at 8am and arrive at work on ti…
Rather than mess around with your monitors' color balance (which I find extremely annoying), I just skip the first step and pop an over the counter melatonin pill. It works splendidly, doesn't seem to be habit forming (been using it on and off for 5 years; it basically got me through the last 2 years of college), and doesn't seem to have any adverse side effects other than more vivid dreams (or, equivalently, better recollection of dreams).
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#30You'll see links to F.lux [0] occasionally on HN, but I can't overstate how F.lux has changed my life. Before F.lux, my laptop would suck me in. I would browse HN, Metafilter, and Twitter even as my eyes stung and my head felt like a bag of sand. Eventually I would go to bed at 3am, confused about how time flew by so quickly. The next morning was always rough. Some days I would wake up at 8am and arrive at work on ti…
As I understand it, F.lux works because your body uses light cues to determine the rate of melatonin production. Essentially: less light (or warmer light) => more melatonin production => sleepiness. Rather than mess around with your monitors' color balance (which I find extremely annoying), I just skip the first step and pop an over the counter melatonin pill. It works splendidly, doesn't seem to be habit forming (be…