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Re: Meta shares drop 20% on Q4 earnings miss, weak outlook

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Apple vs ad-tech is a really interesting battle. It shows the immense power Apple has in the consumer market today, where they can affect some of the largest businesses in the US unilaterally. Meta is in a very tricky position in that unless they put up an actual paywall users don’t really have any incentive to allow tracking. But putting up a paywall introduces a lot of friction, not to mention the adverse selection…

The idea of buying something based on an advertisement and not a need is foreign to me. What is a kind of ad that you consider to be “relevant”? I just block all of them so I might just not be aware of the potential.

It's usually more that the ad results in someone buying something they were already planning to buy from you instead of someone else. There's pretty much 3 types of online advertising, Intent based where you show an add when someone is actively searching for a place to buy the thing, remarketing where you show an add because you were able to detect they were shopping for it recently, and then the window shopping ones which just show you things you might be interested in (these are the lowest converting) Online ads objectively work though. Online ads basically drive the revenue of millions of small and medium sized businesses.

Re: Meta shares drop 20% on Q4 earnings miss, weak outlook

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They really have us trapped with WhatsApp… difficult to figure out how to get off this platform

I hear the EU is working to make interoperability between platforms a thing.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/11/eu-parliament-takes-fi...

Re: Meta shares drop 20% on Q4 earnings miss, weak outlook

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Maybe they'll try launching a Facebook phone that tries to capture Apple's market and it'll fail miserably again. Never underestimate the blue message bubble y'all. That's real leverage.

Apple has always understood that true power is architecting yourself the ability to substantially harm competitors... without your users noticing.

Re: Meta shares drop 20% on Q4 earnings miss, weak outlook

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One simply doesn't change a name when continuation of previous successes is to be expected.

I guess? Alphabet had a good quarter.

Alphabet broadly allows Google to continue-on as Google, in the event that Waymo or its other broader subsidiaries fail (and conversely, allows Google to be cut if that part starts to die). Alphabet is probably one of the most tactical "renames" out of the bunch.

Re: Meta shares drop 20% on Q4 earnings miss, weak outlook

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This explains the shift to Meta. The current company is basically dying, and so they are going to bet the house on something new. Apple really did a number on them by restricting the data they can collect

Apple didn’t do enough. FB needs to go the way of the dodo and just cease to exist. Democracies everywhere will thank them for it.

Re: Meta shares drop 20% on Q4 earnings miss, weak outlook

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One simply doesn't change a name when continuation of previous successes is to be expected.

I guess? Alphabet had a good quarter.

Alphabet isn't quite the same thing, though. They kept the Google name around, and created Alphabet as a kind of holding company. This way they retained the value of their brand while also getting to have a kooky company with a fun name.

Re: Meta shares drop 20% on Q4 earnings miss, weak outlook

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This explains the shift to Meta. The current company is basically dying, and so they are going to bet the house on something new. Apple really did a number on them by restricting the data they can collect

Revenues for the quarter jumped 20 percent to $33.67 billion from $28.07 billion last year. Analysts had a consensus revenue estimate of $33.41 billion for the quarter.

> It’s a slight earnings miss. The price will rebound in the morning and it’ll be back up in a week or two.

Re: Meta shares drop 20% on Q4 earnings miss, weak outlook

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One simply doesn't change a name when continuation of previous successes is to be expected.

I guess? Alphabet had a good quarter.

But how are their fundamentals? Their potential for future growth?

Google is a behemoth, and I wouldn't bet against them. I wouldnt buy their stock either

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