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Stopping certain forms of policy and not others is a way to make policy.
Shape policy but not make policy.
Shaping policy is making policy, practically.
North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet
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#172I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…
> Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. Yes, it is most definitely and intentionally illegal. Things don't stop being crimes just because the victims are communists.
A North Korean law was probably broken. North Korea could ask the US to send him over to stand trial and the US could agree or ignore the request. No legal framework exists between the two countries so the US isn't forced to send them.
Things don't start becoming a crime until laws exist.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
The 2nd Amendment says the government can’t infringe your right to possess arms. It does not say that it’s legal for you to use your arms against others to make a point. “Digital arms” are legal to possess in the U.S. as far as I know. Again, that is not the same thing as legalizing any use of them.
Do bear in mind that the way this interpreted under US law is considered by most non-Americans to be completely bonkers, and is only sustained by strong, uncompromising activist pressure. I doubt the NRA would organize a picket to defend your right to run PGP.
No offense but why would I care at all what a non-American thinks? They are not governed by this law and so have 0 say in what it should be since it is not a rights violation. I am only sorry you all live with such a lack of a basic right and find it normal.
From the other perspective: gun rights are under constant attack from fearmongering media and I find that bonkers. All it takes is one (1) psycho POS shooting up a school for the media to run a month of coverage claiming that everybody should now lose a fundamental right. Ffs most people agree that criminal activity doesn't justify violating everybodys rights (like police state measures), why is this specifically different? Because the media machine works for a political class that wants a disarmed and castrated electorate.
Theres been a creeping advance against these rights since the 1930s with the NFA passing and gun grabbers have been constantly demanding more for these 100 years with small concessions then larger infringements, racheting toward less gun rights, slowly but surely hellbent on taking away our weapons. Most of this is enabled by bullshit judicial activism that twists 2a for matters of convenience and political ends.
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#174Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?
Technically speaking, there hasn't been a peace treaty between Russia and Japan, either. That doesn't mean we've spent the past 77 years waiting with bated breath for yet another conflict over the Kuril islands to break out.
They didn't sign peace "treaty", but they signed declaration of ending war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_Joint_...
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to add context for others that aren't familiar, NK definitely learned from the Libyan experience. It was after Gaddafi got filmed getting bayoneted in the ass for giving up the Libyan nuclear program, North Korea learned to never give up nuclear weapons and accelerated their program.
That was one short bayonet for a man, and open air slave markets for the Libyan people: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/11/27/clinton-po... > 'We came, we saw, he died,' she joked. But overthrowing Gadhafi was a humanitarian and strategic debacle that now limits our options on North Korea.
and asking Iran to give up having missiles etc after seeing what they did to Libya?
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not being able to use arms absolutely is an infringement of the right to bear them. I mean, how would it be different if we claimed that you can own a gun but not shoot it? One point that gets lost about the 2nd Amendment is that it should be considered an inalienable right. Meaning, it cannot be diminished by any law of man. Consequently, most of the gun laws can be viewed as fundamentally unconstitutional, and any…
> Not being able to use arms absolutely is an infringement of the right to bear them. That doesn't follow. The right to own something does not imply the right to use it. > One point that gets lost about the 2nd Amendment is that it should be considered an inalienable right. Meaning, it cannot be diminished by any law of man. Consequently, most of the gun laws can be viewed as fundamentally unconstitutional, and any a…
> That doesn't follow. The right to own something does not imply the right to use it.
That's like saying "The right to own a pair of pants does not mean you have the right to wear them." or "The right to own that Rembrandt doesn't mean you have the right to look at it". What, if not to use or consume an item, is the purpose of ownership at the fundamental level?
> The Constitution does not and cannot bestow inalienable rights.
You'll be happy to hear it does neither. It recognizes rights that are inherent to human beings and (presumably) limits the ability of the government to infringe on them.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do bear in mind that the way this interpreted under US law is considered by most non-Americans to be completely bonkers, and is only sustained by strong, uncompromising activist pressure. I doubt the NRA would organize a picket to defend your right to run PGP.
No offense but why would I care at all what a non-American thinks? They are not governed by this law and so have 0 say in what it should be since it is not a rights violation. I am only sorry you all live with such a lack of a basic right and find it normal. From the other perspective: gun rights are under constant attack from fearmongering media and I find that bonkers. All it takes is one (1) psycho POS shooting up…
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do bear in mind that the way this interpreted under US law is considered by most non-Americans to be completely bonkers, and is only sustained by strong, uncompromising activist pressure. I doubt the NRA would organize a picket to defend your right to run PGP.
No offense but why would I care at all what a non-American thinks? They are not governed by this law and so have 0 say in what it should be since it is not a rights violation. I am only sorry you all live with such a lack of a basic right and find it normal. From the other perspective: gun rights are under constant attack from fearmongering media and I find that bonkers. All it takes is one (1) psycho POS shooting up…
> No offense but why would I care at all what a non-American thinks?
As a non American who doesn’t live in US, I agree with you on this.
I guess most of the non-Americans also don’t care that deeply about your gun laws.
Sometimes we see the incidents and perceive the loss of life to be painful. But this is human nature and it exists in me and you alike.
Sometimes non-Americans might express their opinions on this matter which I believe is fine. Just an opinion. :)
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