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The unsustainable growth of the container ship industry

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Re: The unsustainable growth of the container ship industry

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monopoly power, except effectively extranational so no antitrust

Faaaantastic.

Of course the entire "make 5000 miles away, ship it over the pacific" was enabled by the lack of a proper carbon tax.

If monopolies perform the same "service" then more power to them.

Re: The unsustainable growth of the container ship industry

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monopoly power, except effectively extranational so no antitrust Faaaantastic. Of course the entire "make 5000 miles away, ship it over the pacific" was enabled by the lack of a proper carbon tax. If monopolies perform the same "service" then more power to them.

>Of course the entire "make 5000 miles away, ship it over the pacific" was enabled by the lack of a proper carbon tax.

I think this pretty much sums it up:

>Shippers earned $25 billion in 2020; research consultant Drewry predicted $300 billion for 2021 and 2022.[...] A study by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration found that pollution from cargo ships has led to 60,000 deaths per year and costs up to $330 billion in annual health costs from lung and heart diseases.

Even after the preposterous profit-taking from the recent supply chain clusterfuck, their profits would still be zeroed out by accounting for just some of the externalities.

Re: The unsustainable growth of the container ship industry

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Containerization has a specific meaning in the context of computers so maybe the title should be changed to "The Hidden Costs of [Shipping Containers]" to reduce confusion for people clicking the link thinking it is going to be an article about the drawbacks of docker

Re: The unsustainable growth of the container ship industry

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post #6

Containerization has a specific meaning in the context of computers so maybe the title should be changed to "The Hidden Costs of [Shipping Containers]" to reduce confusion for people clicking the link thinking it is going to be an article about the drawbacks of docker

Fell for it too. Was hoping for something else :-(

Re: The unsustainable growth of the container ship industry

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I guess I have not understood why the port in Long Beach is the one all these ships pile into? Aren't there large ports in San Francisco/Oakland? and the entire Puget Sound? Or are they, but the media doesn't talk about them as much? Portland's old container terminals are empty last I drove by them (although its been a while). I know the Portland terminal is limited on how large of a ship by how deep the water is dredged, but wouldn't it make more sense to utilize the smaller ships to get your highly important cargo delivered faster?

Re: The unsustainable growth of the container ship industry

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post #6

Containerization has a specific meaning in the context of computers so maybe the title should be changed to "The Hidden Costs of [Shipping Containers]" to reduce confusion for people clicking the link thinking it is going to be an article about the drawbacks of docker

indeed, it's probably not the author's intent but it's really clickbait for coders

Re: The unsustainable growth of the container ship industry

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post #6

Containerization has a specific meaning in the context of computers so maybe the title should be changed to "The Hidden Costs of [Shipping Containers]" to reduce confusion for people clicking the link thinking it is going to be an article about the drawbacks of docker

"The Hidden Costs of California" would be the most accurate title in this case.
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