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Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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Re: Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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If there's one feature that I would assert almost everyone wants which requires tracking some data, its search history recommendation.

Just to clarify this comment is sarcastic right? It gets confusing in text. (genuinely asking)

No, I wasn't being sarcastic

Re: Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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happy to hear that you found corporate marketing to be moving. unimpressed by disrespectful and nonconstructive talking over of someone right in front of them.

"Talking over" is something that just doesn't apply to one reply on an asynchronous threaded forum.

does it detract from op's point and instead attempt to steer the conversation somewhere else? (which, incidentally, is also derogatory?)

when people behave that way in live conversations, i'm equally unimpressed.

Re: Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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It seems like you can disable it, it'll just be a different button.

> - The ability of Google Workspace organizations to turn off “Web & App Activity” for all users will be removed. You can't disable it on a workspace level, each user has to do it individually now.

That kind of makes sense. I think the idea is that similar to how your admin doesn't have the ability to control your color scheme or accessibility settings, it's more of a personal usage feature rather than organizational one.

Re: Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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If there's one feature that I would assert almost everyone wants which requires tracking some data, its search history recommendation.

Google turns off maps nav search history if you turn off web search history. Maps could easily switch to local to the device instead, since you usually nav with the same device over and over and could rebuild common history if you got a new device (or transfer history), but it feels like they want a carrot and stick.

Well the google PM said that before this change all their apps history were unified, and they just split off the workspace apps. But maybe you're right and the only reason it's still that way rather than split up is a business decision rather than a developmental/resource allocation decision.

Re: Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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If there's one feature that I would assert almost everyone wants which requires tracking some data, its search history recommendation.

1. We’re talking about people who have already switched it off. 2. There is no need for any tracking to implement this. It can be done on the client.

1. For non paid users, it isn't turned back on. But it is turned on if you're a paying user. In these cases it's never the user who switched it off, it was the admin, so since the control is being shifted from admin to user (admin can no longer turn it off for users of workspace apps) its kind of like a brand new setting for them.

2. True but it's somewhat useful to be able to use your account on different devices and retain your history.

Re: Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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What do you use in replacement for GMail?

It may not be perfect, but I switched to MobileMe for my personal email a long time ago and continue to use iCloud. Search is for sure hit or miss, but I pay for it and feel... a bit better. For my "professional" email I use Amazon Workmail with a custom domain.

I've not tried the new option myself so this isn't a recommendation, but if you are using iCloud for personal email yet are doing 'professional' email elsewhere because of the custom domain, then you may not know that iCloud now supports those custom domains.

Of course there may be other reasons why you want professional email separate, such as not having it at risk should Apple decide you've broken their T&Cs because poor AI/ML says so, and they close your account.

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Active, soon to be former user here. Constantly moving things around, to at the very least temporarily hoover data from users is wrong. The changes going on recently mean, that I'm finally eliminating my use of the G. I've dropped paid services. I'm dropping (paid) GSuite/Workspace/whatever it's now called for my family, and for a couple of businesses. I've embraced other search engines again - and they're surprising…

I had my first DDG beats google moment yesterday I searched for ‘low more guitar sound’ and top result was an awesome YouTube video recreating the guitar sound of Low - More (song with amazing guitar tone) Went to my other computer that defaults to google, searched the same thing Pages of irrelevant crap, searched for ‘low more %nameofyoutubechanbel’ Nothing Searched for exact title of YouTube video Nothing Had to ma…

> I searched for ‘low more guitar sound’ and top result was an awesome YouTube video recreating the guitar sound of Low - More (song with amazing guitar tone)

I just tried this and the first result I got was "Why does my guitar sound low?" on Quora and the only youtube result on page one was titled "How To Fix Annoying String Buzz On Your Guitar"

The results on Google were just as useless and still arguably worse than DDG, but I was disappointed that our results should be so different considering DDG says they don't buy into the whole search bubble thing. I'd have thought they'd be more consistent

Re: Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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Well if you don't trust them then probably don't use them, since they could save your activity no matter the state of the tracking toggle in the UI.

I try to avoid them wherever possible. There are quite a few decent alternatives for many of their core services.

You can't escape google. I've seen even government websites require code from Google's servers. Just like if you choose to never sign up for facebook account they'll still create a secret profile for you and populate with every scrap of data they can learn about you from other facebook users as well as from data purchased from data brokers. We can choose to limit our direct participation with these companies (and that's a good idea) but you don't get to choose to opt out of them.

Re: Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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It may not be perfect, but I switched to MobileMe for my personal email a long time ago and continue to use iCloud. Search is for sure hit or miss, but I pay for it and feel... a bit better. For my "professional" email I use Amazon Workmail with a custom domain.

I've not tried the new option myself so this isn't a recommendation, but if you are using iCloud for personal email yet are doing 'professional' email elsewhere because of the custom domain, then you may not know that iCloud now supports those custom domains. Of course there may be other reasons why you want professional email separate, such as not having it at risk should Apple decide you've broken their T&Cs becaus…

I think at the time I set it up that feature may not exist?

It isn't really anything sensitive, really more just when I am interviewing and related activities.

But I also want it to be a separate email instead of just an alias which I assume iClouds is. Could be wrong though.

Amazon's is just $5 a month so not really a huge drive to change it.

Re: Google to turn on activity tracking for many users who turned it off

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Dear Google: you are becoming less likable by the second. For a long time you were the champion of user experience and you forced a lot of sleazy products to change or go out of business. Recently, it's like you've systematically discovered every dark pattern your evangelists once scorned. Please, please flip the don't be evil bit back to on. Evil Google is not very likable.

The sad truth is that the average person won't care

It's easy to say this, mainly because the average person really just doesn't care.
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