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Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by ynouri »

My company’s product is an API and Postman has been a key tool to test it, collaborate internally on requests and share it to the external world. Our ecosystem is also very API intensive and we also use Postman to discover other companies APIs.

We use all those features:

- HTTP requests

- Mock servers (to test async requests which call back a webhook endpoint)

- Workspaces: private and public

- Monitors, alerts and integrations

I’m excited by the direction Postman has been taking over the years.

Most of commenters in the thread seem to think that Postman is still in the “lightweight cURL replacement GUI” market, like so many of the alternatives mentioned. I think this is wrong - Postman has now has moved to an upper market where requirements are more advanced and complex.

Btw - we use both Postman & cURL

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

jonfk wrote: post #79

To add another data point, I also moved on from Postman a while ago. Similarly to several commentors here I had found it to have become bloated, slow and buggy imho. In my particular use case, I found the urlencoding when using oauth1 to be pretty buggy. It would sometimes not work on certain headers it generated. My team ended up moving to Paw but that has been a bit problematic since it only supports osx, so some t…

> My team ended up moving to Paw but that has been a bit problematic since it only supports osx, so some team members are also using insomnia

One of the first things I learned working professionally is that of it’s possible you need to force all engineers to use the same OS. No one will ever agree on one Linux distro. No one wants to develop on Windows (unless you’re developing for Windows). So you should but everyone a MacBook. The time saved by reducing duplicated work in getting things working on your OS more than pays for the Apple tax. As for personal OS preference - get over it.

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by halpert »

avel wrote: post #158
halpert wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it’s just me but I’ve never had those issues. Another benefit of curl is that you have an easily searchable history of every command you’ve run. So you can easily find old invocations and rerun them.

This extension also keeps a history of requests. How complicated are your requests? If I need to test a POST request with a JSON payload longer than a line or two, I'll go and construct my curl command in a text editor anyway, since the shell prompt / readline is not easy to edit. Once you need to start escaping single or double quotes or html payloads in the request, it quickly gets cumbersome. At that point I ditch…

You can have curl read the request body from a file using --data @filename.txt.

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by skrebbel »

revscat wrote: post #100
skrebbel wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And VC funding!

Source? I really hope this isn't the case. Fucking capitalists kill everything.

A lot depends on the founders. There's plenty VC funded, OSS-originated businesses that don't suck. GitLab comes to mind. There's no reason to immediately assume httpie is going to be the Postman story repeated, although I agree that with VC funding it's more likely than without.

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by dgudkov »

adhoc_slime wrote: post #14

I have a meta question to ask, in threads like these where big products announce new features or big funding I always see commentors lamenting bloated software or it having too many features, not doing the one simple thing you want it to do, etc. To me it seems the only trajectory of developers building products is to add new features, its how we justify keeping ourselves around most of the time. So what my question…

Postman raised $433M so far. Feature bloat is inevitable.

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by htgb »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #172
jonfk wrote: post #79

To add another data point, I also moved on from Postman a while ago. Similarly to several commentors here I had found it to have become bloated, slow and buggy imho. In my particular use case, I found the urlencoding when using oauth1 to be pretty buggy. It would sometimes not work on certain headers it generated. My team ended up moving to Paw but that has been a bit problematic since it only supports osx, so some t…

> My team ended up moving to Paw but that has been a bit problematic since it only supports osx, so some team members are also using insomnia One of the first things I learned working professionally is that of it’s possible you need to force all engineers to use the same OS. No one will ever agree on one Linux distro. No one wants to develop on Windows (unless you’re developing for Windows). So you should but everyon…

With your reasoning, wouldn't it be work as well to dictate a certain Linux distro?

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by dwmbt »

lnenad wrote: post #59
hbn wrote: post #13

Postman is so incredibly bloated and slow these days. All I want is a REST client, but it feels like every time I want to perform a basic task now, I have to dig past all of their confusing platform and cloud stuff that I have no interest in.

Completely agree, I've started making my own open source lightweight version https://github.com/lnenad/probster It's golang + gtk so it uses 30MB of ram. I've made a website https://probster.com with some screenshots. I plan on making a barebones version available for download soon for all platforms, just gotta get around to it because I don't have a lot of experience with delivering desktop apps.

love the idea! i'd be willing to contribute but i'm sort of useless when it comes to go... i do have a suggestion though! lots of open source projects also use open collective [1] to crowd source funds, so if you want to add another payment method for users like me that don't have patreon that might be something to look into.

[1] https://opencollective.com/

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by sangnoir »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #172
jonfk wrote: post #79

To add another data point, I also moved on from Postman a while ago. Similarly to several commentors here I had found it to have become bloated, slow and buggy imho. In my particular use case, I found the urlencoding when using oauth1 to be pretty buggy. It would sometimes not work on certain headers it generated. My team ended up moving to Paw but that has been a bit problematic since it only supports osx, so some t…

> My team ended up moving to Paw but that has been a bit problematic since it only supports osx, so some team members are also using insomnia One of the first things I learned working professionally is that of it’s possible you need to force all engineers to use the same OS. No one will ever agree on one Linux distro. No one wants to develop on Windows (unless you’re developing for Windows). So you should but everyon…

> One of the first things I learned working professionally is that of it’s possible you need to force all engineers to use the same OS.

Why stop there? You may also deny engineers admin access so they can't install unauthorized software alternatives to the one true path(tm). The policy is really solidified by not revising the list of blessed software for many years[1], assuring there are no support tickets, and your stack is truly 'stable'. Why let software engineers choose which software they'd like to install?

1. Eclipse is on the list, always has. Jetbrains requires skip-level approval as support is still experimental. What is VSCode? No one knows the process of adding it to the approved packages.

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by mook »

revscat wrote: post #100
skrebbel wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And VC funding!

Source? I really hope this isn't the case. Fucking capitalists kill everything.

https://httpie.io/about says they've had a seed round already. Looked it up because that sounds… well it is what it is.
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