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North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

IIRC cryptography has been classified under munitions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_th...

Not sure how that'd interact with 2nd amendment issues (but it did come into conflict with the 1st).

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the world certainly loves Nelson Mandela.

But doesn't love Osama Bin Laden, although Afghanistan certainly suffered more from US involvement than the US has suffered from North Korea, whose people it killed millions of.

When did the US kill millions of North Koreans? Do you mean the Korean War in the 1950s?

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

The 2nd amendment already has interpretation questions around the first half -- the "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State," clause. It could go in any number of directions, from expanding "arms" to include "digital arms" to reducing the right only to "as part of a well regulated militia." See: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendment But I wouldn't bet money on the right e…

> given the glacial pace of constitutional law review

OTOH, the SCOTUS has achieved a political supermajority and will probably move much faster with policy changes now.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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It's easy to accuse North Korea. They can't practically respond to the accusations because they have no outlet anyone reads, and if anyone did then nobody would care anyway.

North Korea has Rodong Sinmun, which has an online edition in English. People interested in North Korean politics do read this newspaper. - Website: http://www.rodong.rep.kp/en/ - Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodong_Sinmun

They also have KCNA, which they also use to communicate: http://kcna.kp

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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> So after a year of letting his resentment simmer, P4x has taken matters into his own hands. “It felt like the right thing to do here. If they don’t see we have teeth, it’s just going to keep coming,” says the hacker. Frankly, I feel that international relations are going poorly enough without vigilantes poking the bear. And also, I doubt that bringing down their network infrastructure will have the desired effect o…

In fairness, the bear poked him first...

The article says he downloaded a hacking tool for a friend into a VM that had a back door. Then goes on to say he was “personally targeted”. This is ridiculous.

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

Encryption was considered a weapon previously, which resulted in an export ban. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_...

Also resulted in lots of us having to lie on our Visa Waiver forms on entry to the US.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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So your tools get stolen and you take down possibly critical infrastructure for huge numbers of people? Terrorism. Imagine someone did that to America in response to the NSA hacking them (read, most of the world's population all the time since the Bush administration). We celebrate that when it's done to official enemies.

The North Korean regime just needs to come in from the cold, like Gaddafi did, which certainly worked out well for him and the Libyan people.

Just to add context for others that aren't familiar, NK definitely learned from the Libyan experience. It was after Gaddafi got filmed getting bayoneted in the ass for giving up the Libyan nuclear program, North Korea learned to never give up nuclear weapons and accelerated their program.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

That this article exists it a manifest of his failed OpSec... if you are a hacker and you are popular for it, you aren't doing a good job.

Or, a phrase I like: "If you're as good as you claim, why do I (of all people) know about you?"
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