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North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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> So after a year of letting his resentment simmer, P4x has taken matters into his own hands. “It felt like the right thing to do here. If they don’t see we have teeth, it’s just going to keep coming,” says the hacker. Frankly, I feel that international relations are going poorly enough without vigilantes poking the bear. And also, I doubt that bringing down their network infrastructure will have the desired effect o…

In fairness, the bear poked him first...

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

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Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

We’ll it’s interesting in this case, because technically speaking a peace treaty was never signed and North Korea is in the state of war with the United States. So is it really a crime to attack a hostile state?

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

The 2nd Amendment says the government can’t infringe your right to possess arms. It does not say that it’s legal for you to use your arms against others to make a point. “Digital arms” are legal to possess in the U.S. as far as I know. Again, that is not the same thing as legalizing any use of them.

Encryption, at least, is a purely defensive weapon. In the historical context of 2A, protecting yourself from your government would closely align with the original intent of militias protecting locals from a federal king.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 2nd Amendment says the government can’t infringe your right to possess arms. It does not say that it’s legal for you to use your arms against others to make a point. “Digital arms” are legal to possess in the U.S. as far as I know. Again, that is not the same thing as legalizing any use of them.

Encryption, at least, is a purely defensive weapon. In the historical context of 2A, protecting yourself from your government would closely align with the original intent of militias protecting locals from a federal king.

It's an interesting theory until they arrest you. As another poster pointed out, crypto used to be considered "munitions" under U.S. law.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Encryption, at least, is a purely defensive weapon. In the historical context of 2A, protecting yourself from your government would closely align with the original intent of militias protecting locals from a federal king.

It's an interesting theory until they arrest you. As another poster pointed out, crypto used to be considered "munitions" under U.S. law.

Yeah. After an expensive legal defense, maybe with a bunch of expensive appeals, you'd be either wrong, poor, and in jail or right, poor, and not in jail.

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

That this article exists it a manifest of his failed OpSec... if you are a hacker and you are popular for it, you aren't doing a good job.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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> So after a year of letting his resentment simmer, P4x has taken matters into his own hands. “It felt like the right thing to do here. If they don’t see we have teeth, it’s just going to keep coming,” says the hacker. Frankly, I feel that international relations are going poorly enough without vigilantes poking the bear. And also, I doubt that bringing down their network infrastructure will have the desired effect o…

NK's capabilities are vastly overblown. Calling it a "bear" is part of their disinformation strategy, just like Russia.

You're amplifying their propaganda.

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