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North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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It's easy to accuse North Korea. They can't practically respond to the accusations because they have no outlet anyone reads, and if anyone did then nobody would care anyway.

Implying that the hacking attributed to NK might have been a false flag?

Indeed another person quoted in the article suggests that the hacking might have come from China.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I see comments saying that he may be interfering with actual operations against NK or that now that he has done this they are more likely to patch their systems and be more secure, contradicting his own intentions.

It's also entirely possible that this action, including the WIRED article and it's high visibility, is part of a broader effort and strategy. In reality we just won't know in this type of situation.

Any casual judgement that talks about how obviously naive this is may be a little too shallow.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

Yea I was wondering about the legality of this cyber self-defence, but like many crimes, if the victim (deserving or not) does not report it, you’ll probably get away scot free.

In the case of NK, they could probably even register a complaint and have it ignored, assuming the effort needed to locate the perp was greater than the fucks given by the appropriate authorities.

Hats off to the author but I would also caution them against broadcasting it publicly. The people who would appreciate this the most probably use secure channels anyway ;)

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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> “I want them to understand that if you come at us, it means some of your infrastructure is going down for a while.”

Doing that is one thing, and certainly won't increase your personal safety. Doing that and telling the western press to embarrass them is insanely stupid. Kim Jong-un is widely believed to have ordered the assassination of his half-brother. And you want to threaten the infrastructure of his country? Talk about a keyboard warrior.

PBS Frontline's special on the assassination:

https://www.pbs.org/video/north-koreas-deadly-dictator-2pobw...

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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So your tools get stolen and you take down possibly critical infrastructure for huge numbers of people? Terrorism.

Imagine someone did that to America in response to the NSA hacking them (read, most of the world's population all the time since the Bush administration).

We celebrate that when it's done to official enemies.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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post #11

I would imagine the intelligence services aren't happy he's providing them free pen-test services. He's taking potential tools out of their toolbox when they may need/want them in a future time of conflict.

So if the reds start parachuting down over your community you should just sit pretty lest you interfere with your military’s operations?

The equivalence is not a false one in my eyes because a cyberattack against a US national’s systems should be seen as an attack on a US national’s property.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

Right to bear digital arm to fight foreign digital empire … seems fit the spirit. Not sure about the law and 3 letter people. Best of luck. Brave soul to fight N Korea. How about China.

Re: North Korea hacked him, so he took down its internet

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post #2

I would have advised him to stay quiet about this. Not out of fear of the North Koreans, but out of fear of our own security agencies seeing the activity as interfering in international relations. Also the vagueness of our hacking laws probably make what he did a crime. But I also am immensely proud that we have people willing to take things into their own hands when needed. Also, I feel like the 2nd amendment should…

I'm down with the right to own botnets under the 2A.
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