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LibreOffice 7.3

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Re: LibreOffice 7.3

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Post by II2II »

sharikous wrote: post #4

I find LO to be very buggy and unintuitive in its UI. Equations are a pain, it forgets styling options, etc.. But as a user who uses it completely independently of MS Office, just for my documents, the peace of mind I have knowing I am using a powerful multiplatform open source software which won't betray me is priceless. I know my documents are safe and I can move between OSes at my will. This kind of freedom is ess…

Having used many different word processors across the decades, I wholeheartedly agree with the "won't betray me" comment. So many products have risen and fallen in the past forty years that an open and documented file format is essential for the products of our labour to have lasting value. The cross platform support is also liberating.

As for the unintuitive UI, it is a complex product that is designed to meet a multitude of needs. In that respect, it is not all that different from Microsoft Office. (If anything, I find it to be slightly more intuitive than Microsoft Office since the means of achieving some things in Microsoft's product is downright quirky.)

Re: LibreOffice 7.3

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

adrian_b wrote: post #69
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #26

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I don't even use LO that much, and I'm panic saving in cycle every time I do because it crashes of me so often. Hell, it crashed on me this week, on a 5 pages doc with images, text, one table and a few titles. Nothing fancy. I keep reading people saying it's stable for them, but I've was using it already when it was called OOo, before we had docx support, before docx even existed. And it always has been this buggy. I…

I believe that if regular crashes indeed exist, their cause must depend either on the Linux distribution and the combinations of libraries that are installed on the user computer or on the available memory size. In that case the crashes are probably caused by bugs that are difficult to reproduce on the developer computers. I have been using LibreOffice daily for many years, since almost immediately after it forked fr…

I don't know, the crash last week was from and LTS Ubuntu on a supported Dell XPS with 32Go of RAM. Seem like ideal linux conditions to me.

Re: LibreOffice 7.3

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #26
unixhero wrote: post #21

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Strange, I never encounter any bugs. I am on Windows in corporate land and Linux at home, all good!

I don't even use LO that much, and I'm panic saving in cycle every time I do because it crashes of me so often. Hell, it crashed on me this week, on a 5 pages doc with images, text, one table and a few titles. Nothing fancy. I keep reading people saying it's stable for them, but I've was using it already when it was called OOo, before we had docx support, before docx even existed. And it always has been this buggy. I…

i have a fun one. i like to write and use firefox for research. i am using kde neon and past 3 weeks, on 7.2.5 and earlier, i think from 7.2.2 every often if i Alt-tab out of libreoffice, the app would crash. thankfully i have a habit of automatic ctrl-s whenever i take a break after finishing a sentence so i never lost any data but it was fun to have the same bug for quite some time.

no problems with 7.3 so far

Re: LibreOffice 7.3

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #43
vcgnjxfc444 wrote: post #39

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You must have some bad luck. I use LO daily on Windows and macOS and have done for many years now, and have had maybe 2-3 crashes in total. The document recovery has saved me in all of those cases.

Document recovery will still lose a couple of minutes of work, or sometimes tells you your files is corrupted infortunatly. But even without that, it's more about your workflow being turned sub optimal that hurts. When I open VSCode, Inkscape or Thunderbird, I don't have to think about loosing my data. That makes things smoother :)

can applications remind users to save the document once before the autosave kicks in? i was burned many times before i actually read it somewhere. this should be in the quick start somewhere

Re: LibreOffice 7.3

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Post by yuuta »

I had been using LibreOffice for a year and found that it is extremely buggy. Scrolling starts lagging as long as you have lots of commends on the page. If track changes is turned on, sometimes spaces are inserted in the wrong place. Sometimes it crashes during editing (although it recovered my documents), and such.

It can do some basic editing, but is far less complete compared to MS Office.

Anyways, its PDF editor is great.

Re: LibreOffice 7.3

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Post by adrian_b »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #72
adrian_b wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that if regular crashes indeed exist, their cause must depend either on the Linux distribution and the combinations of libraries that are installed on the user computer or on the available memory size. In that case the crashes are probably caused by bugs that are difficult to reproduce on the developer computers. I have been using LibreOffice daily for many years, since almost immediately after it forked fr…

I don't know, the crash last week was from and LTS Ubuntu on a supported Dell XPS with 32Go of RAM. Seem like ideal linux conditions to me.

There might be even more esoteric variables that influence the appearance of crashes, e.g. which typefaces are used in your documents.

I am pretty sure that we do not use the same typefaces, as I do not use any of the typefaces that are distributed as default in Linux, but I use some commercial typefaces, which I have purchased separately.

I believe that the only way for such elusive bugs to be solved is that whoever experiences the crashes should attempt to create a reproducible crash and file a bug report.

Re: LibreOffice 7.3

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Post by throwawayarnty »

Libre office and gimp to me both crash too often to be reliable for professional work.

At some point in your life a crash is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, so you might as well pay Microsoft and Adobe for the peace of mind.

Re: LibreOffice 7.3

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Post by guenthert »

I count myself lucky in that I rarely have to use those 'productivity' tools. When I have to write print-quality documentation every other decade, I (dreadfully) re-learn the subset of LaTeX I need for the task at hand. When I needed to write a bill however last month, I fetched a template for LO (Ubuntu 18) from the web. Last night I wrote a second one, which to my dismay resulted in a quite different looking PDF: the alignment was off and the fonts were wider. I spent then quite some time to realign the fields. A quite underwhelming result. Next time 'round will be LaTeX again ...

Re: LibreOffice 7.3

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Post by mixmastamyk »

ravenstine wrote: post #67

As much as I still use LibreOffice, I can't help but feel that it's yesterday's software. Actually, that thought has gone through my mind for the last 15 years. It's a behemoth, no doubt, and I'm glad it's around, but man is it clunky. For years it had pretty bad rendering on high DPI screens, the icons don't really match modern OSs (yeah that's nitpicky I know), and good luck theming it because any theming it suppor…

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