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Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by joshstrange »

binwiederhier wrote: post #93
jonfk wrote: post #79

To add another data point, I also moved on from Postman a while ago. Similarly to several commentors here I had found it to have become bloated, slow and buggy imho. In my particular use case, I found the urlencoding when using oauth1 to be pretty buggy. It would sometimes not work on certain headers it generated. My team ended up moving to Paw but that has been a bit problematic since it only supports osx, so some t…

TIL about the intellij http client. Thank you for mentioning that. It looks awesome.blike Postman, but built-in to the IDE I have open anyway. https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/http-client-in-product-c... https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/exploring-http-syntax.ht...

Yeah I stumbled on this just the other day as well when reading about another IDE from JetBrains (I've been a paying IDEA customer for years). I'm looking forward to checking this out the next time I need to test HTTP endpoints. Postman has been decent for my needs but I always found some basic stuff to me way more difficult than it should be. The scripting in IDEA is something I'm very interested in. Postman had some of that but was more difficult that it should have been IMHO. Also I really like the idea of all my requests being text-based and something I can just commit alongside my code.

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by tpoindex »

jonfk wrote: post #79

To add another data point, I also moved on from Postman a while ago. Similarly to several commentors here I had found it to have become bloated, slow and buggy imho. In my particular use case, I found the urlencoding when using oauth1 to be pretty buggy. It would sometimes not work on certain headers it generated. My team ended up moving to Paw but that has been a bit problematic since it only supports osx, so some t…

There certainly are plenty of Postman alternatives out there, one that I've used before is Milkman: https://github.com/warmuuh/milkman

It's built on a plugin architecture, does gRPC, GraphQL, JDBC, Ws, et.al. Other plugins allow sharing of workspaces to various services. Written in Java/JavaFX, brew or chocolatey install.

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by CSMastermind »

matsemann wrote: post #21
adhoc_slime wrote: post #14

I have a meta question to ask, in threads like these where big products announce new features or big funding I always see commentors lamenting bloated software or it having too many features, not doing the one simple thing you want it to do, etc. To me it seems the only trajectory of developers building products is to add new features, its how we justify keeping ourselves around most of the time. So what my question…

You can't win. Most features added is because someone wants them. One person's bloat is another person's long sought feature. Like a quote about Microsoft Office: A user only ever uses about 10 percent of the features. The problem is that all users use different 10 percents.

This is solved in food products by differentiation. Someone likes the no pulp orange juice so they buy that and someone else likes the stuff with pulp in it so they buy that.

Why not do the same thing with software?

Release 10 different flavors of Microsoft Word and let people choose the one they want.

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by kgeist »

binwiederhier wrote: post #93
jonfk wrote: post #79

To add another data point, I also moved on from Postman a while ago. Similarly to several commentors here I had found it to have become bloated, slow and buggy imho. In my particular use case, I found the urlencoding when using oauth1 to be pretty buggy. It would sometimes not work on certain headers it generated. My team ended up moving to Paw but that has been a bit problematic since it only supports osx, so some t…

TIL about the intellij http client. Thank you for mentioning that. It looks awesome.blike Postman, but built-in to the IDE I have open anyway. https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/http-client-in-product-c... https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/exploring-http-syntax.ht...

Devs at our company predominantly use IntelliJ's builtin HTTP client. I think I've only seen QA engineers use Postman because they don't have developer IDEs installed.

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by jen20 »

CSMastermind wrote: post #104
matsemann wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't win. Most features added is because someone wants them. One person's bloat is another person's long sought feature. Like a quote about Microsoft Office: A user only ever uses about 10 percent of the features. The problem is that all users use different 10 percents.

This is solved in food products by differentiation. Someone likes the no pulp orange juice so they buy that and someone else likes the stuff with pulp in it so they buy that. Why not do the same thing with software? Release 10 different flavors of Microsoft Word and let people choose the one they want.

Because the cost of production does not scale in a reasonable manner, nor would it be good for users. What happens when you need feature X that is only available in 6th edition, or need to open a document prepared in the 8th edition by someone else?

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by magicalhippo »

paozac wrote: post #5

I used to like Postman, when it was a simple browser extension. I basically used it as a curl gui. Now > Postman is an API platform for building and using APIs. Postman simplifies each step of the API lifecycle and streamlines collaboration so you can create better APIs—faster. I guess I’m no longer their target user. Back to curl/httpie.

I found SoapUI when I had to develop some SOAP services, but these days it also does REST etc just fine.

For someone like me who just does this occasionally I found it rather useful.

[1]: https://www.soapui.org

Re: Postman Now Supports gRPC

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Post by IshKebab »

halpert wrote: post #85
avel wrote: post #68

As I have also been frustrated with the direction Postman has taken, I have a great alternative to suggest, if the only thing you want to do is fire requests on demand easily and do not need automated testing. The VS Code Rest Client extension https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=humao.re... is great for testing and debugging APIs. You create a "my_request.http" file that contains something like POST h…

Doesn’t curl do this just as easily?

Sounds a lot easier than curl tbh. No need to deal with shell scripts and their insane quoting, plus you get the response straight in your editor with syntax highlighting.
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