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I think full self driving is the same distance away as cold fusion.
But is it closer than Linux on the desktop?
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So Tesla is supposed to mimic bad driving of bad drivers? Whatever happened to the promised Age of Road Safety, brought about by smart AI whose ability to make decisions is so much better than the useless chunks of meat menacing our roads today? >How many people are going to get rear ended because every Tesla stops at a stop sign now? So bad drivers roll through stop signs, and this behaviour is somehow at equilibriu…
Tesla is supposed to mimic human driving so its cars are predictable to other human drivers. What's the point of driving safely if it gets you in an accident? > Speeders that endanger lives of everyone not currently inside a car, now embedded in an efficient algorithm Maybe pedestrians should be voting to improve public transportation instead of trying to walk in roads clearly not meant for pedestrians. Has nobody he…
Great! I don't roll or blow through stops, follow too closely or speed by more than 5 kmh within city limits. I drive carefully and defensively, avoiding dangerous manoeuvres, especially when a driver close to me seems erratic (for example, blows through a stop sign, speeds or follows too closely).
Tesla should mimic my driving.
Pedestrians should be voting to improve public transportation in addition to improving walkability of their neighbourhoods, not instead of that.
>How is it a solution to make every car go 25 mph just in case some random person decides to jaywalk?
In my Canadian province, crossing mid-block is perfectly legal as long as you yield to traffic, and 'jaywalking' is not a legal concept. Slowing cars down is safer not just because it reduces the likelihood and severity of hitting pedestrians when they cross incorrectly. It is also safer because it reduces the likelihood and severity of hitting pedestrians when they cross correctly, or walk on a sidewalk. It is also safer because it reduces the likelihood and severity of hitting cyclists and other cars. Highways should be designed for speed, whereas streets should be designed for safety at the expense of speed.
Besides, when a city gets above a certain size and is not missing traffic lights where they should be, speeding within city limits is often quite a futile endeavour. I can't tell you how many times I see drivers who go 70 in a 50 kmh zone zoom past me, just to be waiting at the next light, or the one after that as I pull up after going 55 kmh the whole way. I won't lie, it can be amusing.
If self-driving cars just emulate the stupid, dangerous and illogical habits of human drivers, then to hell with self-driving cars, and you can bet I'll be voting for that.
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Related situation, but not quite the same: I know someone who wrote off their car on the A14 near Cambridge (UK) because they weren’t paying attention in stop-start traffic and rear-ended the one in front. Ironically, she hates Elon Musk and everything he does, so memes about how self driving cars are a terrible idea.
You know what is really ironic? If this person was in a Tesla or similar car with obstacle detection the car would have never let them rear end the one in front in stop-and-go traffic.
Everyone wants to hate on Elon but he’s making incredible progress in machine learning. Tesla and OpenAI have done more for the field than almost anyone in the last decade, except maybe Google.
Am I wrong or the number of times people take over to avoid a crash is a secret?
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You know what is really ironic? If this person was in a Tesla or similar car with obstacle detection the car would have never let them rear end the one in front in stop-and-go traffic.
That’s the point ;)
Just to clarify the current process of being able to use the Tesla FSD beta because I've seen a lot of comments by people thinking Tesla released this and cars are now just driving around without a human driver: 1. pay $12k or $200/mo 2. Opt-in for beta. Drive over 100-200 miles and maintain a 98%+ "safety score" until you're selected (could be months) 3. Manually activate FSD each time you want to use it 4. Keep han…
Should this be legal? Some rich Tesla fanboy beta testing buggy software with a misleading name of autopilot or FSD ont he streets where your children walk? I am not aware of such laws but they shoudl exist, otherwise other companies can start alpha testing with random fanboys.
That being said, it has made me re-realize that humans are really terrible drivers as well, myself included, just less terrible on average, currently.
Just to clarify the current process of being able to use the Tesla FSD beta because I've seen a lot of comments by people thinking Tesla released this and cars are now just driving around without a human driver: 1. pay $12k or $200/mo 2. Opt-in for beta. Drive over 100-200 miles and maintain a 98%+ "safety score" until you're selected (could be months) 3. Manually activate FSD each time you want to use it 4. Keep han…
Should this be legal? Some rich Tesla fanboy beta testing buggy software with a misleading name of autopilot or FSD ont he streets where your children walk? I am not aware of such laws but they shoudl exist, otherwise other companies can start alpha testing with random fanboys.
EDIT: Seems like my "data-driven decision making" advocacy really struck a nerve with the cherry-picked anecdotes and rhetoric crowd. :)
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fsd is the current definitive take on the subject. Watching this video I really had no idea how bad it was. My opinion is that we will never have full self driving without infrastructure updates; basically putting the cars on rails and forbidding non-self-driving cars and pedestrians. Even then it's dicey. At least part of the reason is that a self-driving car can never have skin in…
It’s 2022. We still have meat flavoured train drivers and they have a massively constrained set of complexity to navigate.
Just to clarify the current process of being able to use the Tesla FSD beta because I've seen a lot of comments by people thinking Tesla released this and cars are now just driving around without a human driver: 1. pay $12k or $200/mo 2. Opt-in for beta. Drive over 100-200 miles and maintain a 98%+ "safety score" until you're selected (could be months) 3. Manually activate FSD each time you want to use it 4. Keep han…