Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who is just driving into cars at stop signs because they stop for an extra two seconds?
Robots who do not follow traffic norms will quickly become infuriating.
Not an answer to the question.
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#22Abridged history of Elon's self-driving predictions: 2015: "We’re going to end up with complete autonomy, and I think we will have complete autonomy in approximately two years." 2016: "I really consider autonomous driving a solved problem, I think we are less than two years away from complete autonomy, safer than humans, but regulations should take at least another year." 2018: "I think probably by end of next year (…
the increasing shift to blaming regulators is really notable when you put this on a timeline. Would be nice if people reacted with the historical knowledge about what Musk says rather than just the presumption that he is being true and honest when he blames them for Tesla/SpaceX's problems.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty sure most of you do....
If a bicyclist does something wrong, all cyclists are bad. If a driver does something stupid, that driver is stupid. People complain daily about the bad drivers they face during their commute. But that's quickly forgotten. That one time a cyclist did something wrong, however, is etched into memory. Drivers (not cars) kill an incredible amount of people every year, while cyclists virtually none. Cars pollute, make noi…
Sure there are bad drivers but in SF bad cyclists are a matter of routine. Blowing stop signs, red lights at full speed, weaving through cross traffic and riding on pedestrian sidewalks at speed are not regular occurrences for car drivers.
Sure I want a full biking city and what not but the cyclists here are such a bad testimony to everyone else that it starts this strong negativity. Being jerks to the pedestrians and the drivers earns you few allies.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty sure most of you do....
If a bicyclist does something wrong, all cyclists are bad. If a driver does something stupid, that driver is stupid. People complain daily about the bad drivers they face during their commute. But that's quickly forgotten. That one time a cyclist did something wrong, however, is etched into memory. Drivers (not cars) kill an incredible amount of people every year, while cyclists virtually none. Cars pollute, make noi…
> Weird how that works.
Because it doesn't. None of that is true, except in maybe some isolated incidences. Those incidences just happen to be etched in your memory, because you took them personally. It's not enough of a norm for your sweeping generalization to hold water.
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#25Abridged history of Elon's self-driving predictions: 2015: "We’re going to end up with complete autonomy, and I think we will have complete autonomy in approximately two years." 2016: "I really consider autonomous driving a solved problem, I think we are less than two years away from complete autonomy, safer than humans, but regulations should take at least another year." 2018: "I think probably by end of next year (…
Got to give the guy his due though: the average capitalist bastard couldn’t literally sell a promise like that and hold it off for half a decade yet still maintain a rabid fanbase stating it’ll be any minute now and shooting down any dissident opinion.
/s for the sake of the challenged.
I figured most of the cars that had FSD paid for will be scrap before it happens.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seriously, Tesla's autopilot rolls through stop signs because everyone does. How many people are going to get rear ended because every Tesla stops at a stop sign now? It feels like enforcing this behavior is more dangerous than letting it slide. It's the same with following the speed limit on roads where everyone speeds. Nobody is going to like self driving cars if they're going 25 on a road where everyone goes 40, w…
Who is just driving into cars at stop signs because they stop for an extra two seconds?
Ask my dad or the variety of people in your life that have had it happen to them. I guarantee you know people this has happened to. Have you never heard of getting rear ended?
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#27I think full self driving is the same distance away as cold fusion.
But is it closer than Linux on the desktop?
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#28I think full self driving is the same distance away as cold fusion.
And when we get it, it's more like Cold Fusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ColdFusion_Markup_Language
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#29https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fsd is the current definitive take on the subject.
Watching this video I really had no idea how bad it was. My opinion is that we will never have full self driving without infrastructure updates; basically putting the cars on rails and forbidding non-self-driving cars and pedestrians. Even then it's dicey.
At least part of the reason is that a self-driving car can never have skin in the game. So if you want to cut off a self-driving car, go for it! If there's a busy exit and you want to cut in line, find the FSD and go in front -- with a real driver there's a chance, however small, that they would play chicken, but an FSD never will. If you want to pass a FSD and there's not enough room, just do it anyway.
Even worse will be when FSDs learn these behaviors by observing them and use them on other FSDs, and then you have a race to the bottom.
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#30I think full self driving is the same distance away as cold fusion.
AI is like graphene it can do anything in the lab.
EDIT: thx