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Re: Show HN: What do you think of my new social app?

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Post by newswasboring »

stazz1 wrote: post #65
newswasboring wrote: post #22

I know its frowned upon in HN to talk monetization early, but if I am not the product, how do you plan to sustain and grow this? I believe social media inherently has only one product, social interactions. If you users are not being charged, they are the product. Do you plan to charge content creators? Do you plan to charge for premium features? I ask because otherwise it might just go the way of Google+ and disappea…

> frowned upon in HN to talk monetization early, it is? Would you pay for a subscription to a social network without ads? Doesn't seem too far from an actuality

This depends directly on whether my friends will pay to be on that network. Game servers are a great example. I will pay if my friends are also on the same server.

The problem is, there are way too many free options for us to organize. And this doesn't bring anything to the table which is spectacular.

Re: Show HN: What do you think of my new social app?

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Post by newswasboring »

jstrafy wrote: post #63
newswasboring wrote: post #22

I know its frowned upon in HN to talk monetization early, but if I am not the product, how do you plan to sustain and grow this? I believe social media inherently has only one product, social interactions. If you users are not being charged, they are the product. Do you plan to charge content creators? Do you plan to charge for premium features? I ask because otherwise it might just go the way of Google+ and disappea…

Thanks for the comment. Having an FAQ would have been a nice way to cover this as it seems you're not the only one! We plan to monetise through paid premium features, none of which have been included in the first public version of the product. So previously didn't think it was relevant to talk monetisation!

I swear I am not trying to be a jerk, but I have heard this way too many times but have never seen this succeed in a way which adds to the service. Most of the times the paid premium feature is "no ads" or less wait times etc. Especially for a social networks, I can't even imagine what feature you can build which will make me pay you to be in touch with my friends.

One point against my argument might be reddit gold kind of stuff. They are more of a status signal. You can monetize status signals.

Re: Show HN: What do you think of my new social app?

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Post by 3np »

jstrafy wrote: post #48
catfishx wrote: post #37

A new unknown app claiming its privacy friendly asking me for all my contacts with out being open-source and not even properly tested? No thanks.

Appreciate the comment. As mentioned in some comments we will continue to push the privacy front as far as possible, until then we've tried to be clear about communicating where we are with that (and clear about what we're not yet doing privacy wise). 1. The vast majority of our privacy is in product experience. Sharing with less people instead of everyone, making reactions and comments only visible between mutual co…

Just chiming in that until it’s fully open-sourced (or at the very least source-available with a license allowing me to build, modify, and run it myself), this is entirely uninteresting as an alternative.

We are many that had trust broken one too many times.

IMO encryption/privacy means nothing if I can’t ensure it’s what it says myself. Ability to self-build is the only way to make that happen.

Re: Show HN: What do you think of my new social app?

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Post by cvwright »

Hey James,

Congrats on launching!

Great minds think alike. I also have a similar app (heh, also called "Circles") still in beta at https://testflight.apple.com/join/cwsJZed9

There's also now MinesTRIX from a guy Henri Carnot in France. https://minestrix.henri2h.fr/

Don't let the haters on HN get you down. (Although, hey, you're getting more traction here than I did. Go you!)

But either way, the geeks are not the audience who are going to make or break these projects. I swear half the non-technical people I talk to are very ready for something new. People on HN would be amazed at the hoops that "normies" are jumping through in order to avoid Facebook.

PS - Henri and others (including myself) are working on a spec that would allow these apps to interoperate with each other, letting users on different apps communicate with each other just like with email or Matrix chat. It would be great to have you as part of that effort.

Re: Show HN: What do you think of my new social app?

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Post by TameAntelope »

It'd be great if I could use these "circles" to limit who I create posts for on Facebook. Does Facebook allow that kind of API interaction? On their site they have a, "Pick Specific Friends" when you create a post, and being able to use circles to navigate that would be fun (saved groups?).

Maybe you can solve that "network effects" problem by integrating somehow like that? I dunno.

Congrats on launching, though! Always so hard to get something off the ground and ready for users, good work!

Re: Show HN: What do you think of my new social app?

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Post by severak_cz »

I also made an social network but I went other way around:

1) everything (except direct messages and internal realtime chat between our users) is visible and public

2) users are encouraged to use pseudonyms

I also don't want to make product out of users, but currently there is no monetization scheme at all. It's currently semi-open beta for invited individuals (AKA you need to ask me for invite code).

I started it when austrian social network Soup.io closed it doors. See https://kyselo.eu/ if anyone interested.

Re: Show HN: What do you think of my new social app?

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Post by jstrafy »

TameAntelope wrote: post #76

It'd be great if I could use these "circles" to limit who I create posts for on Facebook. Does Facebook allow that kind of API interaction? On their site they have a, "Pick Specific Friends" when you create a post, and being able to use circles to navigate that would be fun (saved groups?). Maybe you can solve that "network effects" problem by integrating somehow like that? I dunno. Congrats on launching, though! Alw…

Great idea, annoyingly they don't have this type of API interaction! If so, would build a great client app that allows people to take the best parts of Facebook without the many negatives.

Thanks!

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