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Re: California's single-payer bill dies

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Extreme, but I have to admit I'm getting the popcorn ready for the next Presidential election. But if the American people literally don't want affordable healthcare that is their choice.

The American people want it. Powerful business lobbies ensure it gets blocked. Things like that are why the USA is not a democracy but a corporate oligarchy.

Re: California's single-payer bill dies

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Extreme, but I have to admit I'm getting the popcorn ready for the next Presidential election. But if the American people literally don't want affordable healthcare that is their choice.

You realize Vermont tried this and costs swelled so much that Democrats themselves reverted it back to non single payer?

Re: California's single-payer bill dies

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Extreme, but I have to admit I'm getting the popcorn ready for the next Presidential election. But if the American people literally don't want affordable healthcare that is their choice.

The American people want it. Powerful business lobbies ensure it gets blocked. Things like that are why the USA is not a democracy but a corporate oligarchy.

How can the American people want single payer when a supermajority opposes abolishing private insurance?

Re: California's single-payer bill dies

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Extreme, but I have to admit I'm getting the popcorn ready for the next Presidential election. But if the American people literally don't want affordable healthcare that is their choice.

You realize Vermont tried this and costs swelled so much that Democrats themselves reverted it back to non single payer?

Don’t most national healthcare programs also add in collective bargaining?

I can’t imagine it’d be possible to support on state coffers alone without that.

Re: California's single-payer bill dies

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Extreme, but I have to admit I'm getting the popcorn ready for the next Presidential election. But if the American people literally don't want affordable healthcare that is their choice.

Having the state double income tax and then using those funds to pay for healthcare does not suddenly make it “affordable”. We need to address the underlying costs of healthcare in the US, we are paying much more than other Western Nations. Do that, maybe there is a chance of affordability.
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