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Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by ksec »

holoduke wrote: post #159
ksec wrote: post #21

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Most are either sticking with MySQL ( which is still working fine ) or moved to PostgreSQL. MariaDB is sort of in a very odd position. Had Oracle completely abandoned MySQL like they did with Solaris it would have been an easier choice to move to Maria. Instead they nurture it like they did with Java. Although I am wondering if they will ever release 9.0.

We are running mariadb for many years on a 50k request per second app. Works pretty fine. Why should we migrate to postgress? I know many mid sized projects relying on MariaDb. It's a stable database proven in many different scenarios.

Not suggesting everyone should move to Postgres, it was just a general observation from online and offline discussions. I know MariaDB works fine if not great. It is just comparatively speaking not getting much market shares.

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Post by evanelias »

9thbit wrote: post #138
uvdn7 wrote: post #87

My impression is that MariaDB has good ARM support out of the box. I am not sure about ARM support status of other popular DBs.

We tried using it as a drop in for MySQL docker containers on new ARM Macs and it is very slow, nearly as slow as emulating an x86 MySQL container.

Official ARM builds of MySQL 8 are available. Works great on my m1 mac! For docker images you just have to get them from https://hub.docker.com/r/mysql/mysql-server instead of https://hub.docker.com/_/mysql

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Post by ashvardanian »

jerrybender wrote: post #193
ashvardanian wrote: post #170

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they are doing OK, but much worse than the private Snowflake, in terms of multiples and growth rate. FOSS is too easy to replicate, so Mongo is most likely earning a lot less than AWS and other cloud vendors from their forks of Mongo.

Snowflake is publicly traded

by private I meant closed-source

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Post by sangnoir »

endymi0n wrote: post #172
wayoutthere wrote: post #168

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Simpler, more flexible data model along with speed / storage efficiency (you’re not updating many indexes so writes are much simpler). Your transaction layer data model should be as flat as possible; enrich with relational data in your analytics systems and data warehouses to optimize query speed.

Beware however that this flexibility and initial ease is more often than not a slippery slope into chaos. This article put it really well in my opionion: There are no schemaless databases, just the ones with an explicit schema and the ones with their schema defined in a couple hundred places in code. One of them is slightly easier to start out with, the other to evolve, maintain and communicate (double serving as sel…

> There are no schemaless databases, just the ones with an explicit schema and the ones with their schema defined in a couple hundred places in code

This is a false dichotomy - there are better ways of self-managing the schema than "couple hundred places in code." There are valid usecases where a schemaless db is the better option (e.g. when you're recording self-describing data. Or when there is an implicit, consistent structure to the data - but the engineers won't know it at development time. Or when you want to do a full-take of structured data including unknown fields without losing data that's not in your DDL without resorting to file blobs, requiring additional data management)

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

trey-jones wrote: post #198
vidar wrote: post #18

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Wordpress and PHP in general are very MySQL heavy I think. That is a lot of volume.

MariaDB is more closely aligned with Wordpress and PHP in terms of licensing. I sort of assumed that most users of (FL)OSS who had previously used MySQL would be using MariaDB by now, but based on comments in this topic I must be wrong.

i use maria and PHP...

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Post by jabl »

mikece wrote: post #45
ComradePhil wrote: post #38

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I am sure they'll change their license, like some others have done: https://www.confluent.io/blog/license-changes-confluent-plat... https://blog.timescale.com/blog/building-open-source-busines... I don't think there is any place for GPL in databases and similar software, specially if it is to be built and run by for-profit companies.

I used to be opposed to GPL at moral level have have since changed my mind on this. It makes sense for anything that is essentially infrastructure -- operating systems, web servers, software firewalls -- to be GPL: improvements at this level are rarely something which gives a specific company a competitive advantage. In the cases where it would, however, I like the idea of dual-licensing so that a GPL project (for ex…

> If Linux had been offering this dual-license option

... then, most likely, Linux would never have taken off as contributors would have balked at the copyright assignment bureocracy, as well as not wanting to contribute to Linus's get-rich-quick scheme (why should Linus get special rights to profit of the work of the community?).

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Post by cies »

kaba0 wrote: post #186
cies wrote: post #120

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MySQL is also FLOSS right? It's not about it being FLOSS or not, its about their stewardship of open innovation projects. No surprise that super commercial/ legal heavy company is not great at it. Not saying I love Goolge, Facebook or even MS these days, but they seem to play it A LOT nicer that Oracle in that regard.

Doubt. Oracle was the company that did finally open-source java completely, making every single previously paid-only feature found in OracleJDK available for free/libre in OpenJDK, of which they are responsible for 99% of all commits. Also, the language has been doing exceedingly well under their stewardship.

I know. Still stories like this would not come out of ASF or EclipseF.

https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/16/oracle_jdk_free_licen...

It's messy.

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Post by kaba0 »

cies wrote: post #218
kaba0 wrote: post #186

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Doubt. Oracle was the company that did finally open-source java completely, making every single previously paid-only feature found in OracleJDK available for free/libre in OpenJDK, of which they are responsible for 99% of all commits. Also, the language has been doing exceedingly well under their stewardship.

I know. Still stories like this would not come out of ASF or EclipseF. https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/16/oracle_jdk_free_licen... It's messy.

Because it is free ‘paid support’ for OracleJDK? Is red hat linux also scammy for having fedora and a paid distro as well?

OpenJDK of which OracleJDK is just a fork is absolutely free and libre.

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