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Israel rolls out laser defense system

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Re: Israel rolls out laser defense system

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Propaganda is a strong word for truth

Truth is a strong word for propaganda. Saying nonsensical responses like that is easy. In the thread I linked there is a rebuttal of Amnesty's propaganda: https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-attacks-delusional-amnes...

One of the most common tactics is for Jews to point the finger at “Gentile anti-Semitism” rather than acknowledge actual Jewish behavior.

Re: Israel rolls out laser defense system

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Any foil will do, just as the JWST's sunshield is effective against all the wavelengths coming off the sun. Gold or silver is best, but aluminum foil from the grocery store is extremely reflective across all wavelengths we would call laser. Just giving the metal rocket a good polish would make a significant difference.

Aluminum foil reflects about 85% of visible light. Gold reflects 98% of visible light. Neither of these materials would be effective in protecting against a 100kW laser. That remaining 2% is 2kW of light energy directed at a small target. It’ll rapidly ablate the gold foil and then the target will begin to absorb the full power.

Wouldnt the rocket continue moving towards its target during the ablation?

Re: Israel rolls out laser defense system

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Indeed, most people are very surprised that a stick of dynamite has just the energy equivalent of a Snickers bar. Spread the energy release over more than just a few microseconds and you have a very different profile.

Indeed, and going the other way, a snickers bar will get you surprising far across the English Channel in a rowing boat.

It’ll take you to Cardiff on a bicycle!

Re: Israel rolls out laser defense system

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Other people on here have suggested that tin foil will do as protection, or metal polish for that matter. Im guessing this will make no difference in the number of rockets at all

Random commenters on HN are not smarter than the Palestinians nor the Israelis involved in this conflict. I am sure that 'tin foil' (by which I believe you mean aluminum foil) will not work.

What you say is true but we dont know how much marketing fluff we’re dealing with in this press release, either.

Re: Israel rolls out laser defense system

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Are they? Who has the best bunkers? Who has dedicated aircraft you can live in permanently?

>Who has dedicated aircraft you can live in permanently? permanently ? Probably impossible with current technology. Your best bet is still an underground bunker. If it has to be moving you'll need something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowpiercer_(TV_series)#Premis...

I am assuming landing and refueling is allowed, you can choose a non nuked place for that.

Re: Israel rolls out laser defense system

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> moving Tel Aviv to the moon would quite expensive and you would lose the mediterranean climate Might make rent just a little bit cheaper though.

Yeah, but there's no "atmosphere" any more...

tel-aviv famously lives in bubble anyway

Re: Israel rolls out laser defense system

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Truth is a strong word for propaganda. Saying nonsensical responses like that is easy. In the thread I linked there is a rebuttal of Amnesty's propaganda: https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-attacks-delusional-amnes...

One of the most common tactics is for Jews to point the finger at “Gentile anti-Semitism” rather than acknowledge actual Jewish behavior.

Coming from a person who lived for a while in South Africa as a refugee as well as worked in Israel, Israel is simply not an apartheid state. It’s more arguable that the situation in the West Bank bears some similarity, but it lacks the critical features of apartheid such as lack of governmental representation, lack of the right to vote based on race, massively disparate funding enshrined in law according to race, denial of public services due to race, etc. None of these are found in Israel, and some of them are found to a certain extent in the West Bank, but not all of them and not entirely. It’s a hip buzzword though that gets people’s attention, which is why it’s used by Palestinian activists.

No one accused you of antisemitism either, and what I always find rather curious are those who almost always pre-empt their responses saying that someone will baselessly accuse them of antisemitism, when no one in fact actually does. Way to figure out how to blame Jews anyhow even when they don’t do anything.

What’s more, there are literally hundreds of thousands of Jews who are ambivalent about Israel and criticise it daily, and yet you seem to put all Jews into a single monolith and claim that it’s a ‘tactic’ of theirs. Sounds eerily like Nazi era propaganda of accusing them of ‘Jewish trickery’.

Re: Israel rolls out laser defense system

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The last time I saw Israel doing something like this it was an infrared laser, each laser used a massive "chemical reaction battery" to power the laser. But each burst of shots used a big sea container looking battery that churned out some truly hideous chemical waste. I wonder how they plan on powering this new system.

you are probably talking about THEL from 20 years ago. those "batteries" were reason that it never became operational: too risky to be around them in case they blow up. new one are fiber optic lasers i think

Re: Israel rolls out laser defense system

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> other Palestinians opposed to the deal can 'break' it Only if Isreal reacts by declaring the peace deal with one group dead because another group fired rockets. It takes two to tango, as they say. If a gunman from Canada fired into the USA, the USA is unlikely to consider it a declaration of war and start nuking Canada!

> "Only if Isreal reacts by declaring the peace deal with one group dead because another group fired rockets. It takes two to tango, as they say." This is problematic for a number of reasons. First, it could be that the Palestinian government was actually responsible for shooting off the rockets, but were scapegoating someone else for political reasons (the internal and external messaging are very different things, a…

> attacks were being organized by a political party which was a member of the governing coalition, I think the USA would have no option but to blame the government.

This is not the same as the point i was replying to. That point was that even if Israel made peace with the government a seperatist entity could still fire rockets. So no we are not talking about the governing coalition.

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One of the most common tactics is for Jews to point the finger at “Gentile anti-Semitism” rather than acknowledge actual Jewish behavior.

Coming from a person who lived for a while in South Africa as a refugee as well as worked in Israel, Israel is simply not an apartheid state. It’s more arguable that the situation in the West Bank bears some similarity, but it lacks the critical features of apartheid such as lack of governmental representation, lack of the right to vote based on race, massively disparate funding enshrined in law according to race, de…

>the critical features of apartheid such as lack of governmental representation, lack of the right to vote based on race, massively disparate funding enshrined in law according to race, denial of public services due to race, etc. None of these are found in Israel

I found compelling evidence of these in the amnesty international report.

>No one accused you of antisemitism either

The link provided above shows the headline as "Israel blasts Amnesty UK for ‘antisemitic’ report accusing it of apartheid"

>Sounds eerily like Nazi era propaganda of accusing them of ‘Jewish trickery’

I don't care what it sounds like - this is literally what it is. Imagine for a moment bringing up "blood libel" in a report on documented israeli abuse of Palestinians. It's just disgusting and zionists have gotten away with it for too long.The zionist state needs widespread condemnation and dismantling for its crimes against humanity.

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