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Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed

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They're distinctly different emotions. You might as well ask me for a cite that being angry and being happy are different emotions.

That's an assertion, not a source.

I think you're pulling my leg.

Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed

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That's an assertion, not a source.

I think you're pulling my leg.

I think you're wrong.

If you don't have a source, you can simply say so.

At this point, I'll simply presume as much and move on.

Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed

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In 2014, Indian voters voted for a candidate who claimed he will remove corruption, end poverty and make India better than Japan, South Korea and Europe. Turned out in 2022, Narendra Modi was a fraud, uneducated and full of ego. He did not know how to do the job at all. He just got the gig by enciting violence in local constituency. If top posts can be rigged, corporate jobs resume fraud is a child's play.

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Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed

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It's like the flip version of the guy that got let go and then re-recruited for his just vacated position. https://twitter.com/firr/status/1456324664628846599

> I offered him a gummy bear. He politely declined. This is the best thing I've ever read.

Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed

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I would find it suspicious as well, but consider this: People who are great at their job are hard to find and expensive. People who will eventually be great at their job are a lot, lot cheaper, though still hard to find. If you can hire someone before they realize how good they will be, you can save a lot of money and fill a position immediately. I haven't actually figured out how to find those people, though I have…

Constant stream of college grads brought in as interns. Just select the hungry ones with hustle and indoctrinate them. This is a typical MO for large established corporations.

I work for a smaller company that typically only has 1 job opening at a time, and low turnover. I agree that big corps do what you said and hope for the best, but I don't think it's a valid strategy for a small company.

Especially since letting people go is emotionally damaging, even when they are incompetent. If they have barely enough skill to do the job, my ethics wouldn't let me condone firing them.

Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed

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It might be the fact that people are monitoring how the sausage is made with the explicit purpose of judging that process. But when working with people in the normal job, nobody is watching them type they just eat the sausage. I can relate. I don’t have anxiety generally with work and have been praised on my interactions with customers. But I feel anxious during interviews because they are actively trying to judge me…

It's my opinion that interview anxiety is almost entirely unrelated to: how well someone works with a team; how well someone handles an emergency; and how well someone can related to and work with clients. Source: I've been repeatedly told, over decades, that I'm good or great at all those things—and I enjoy all of those things, for the most part, even when they're tough—but interviews make me anxious as fuck and I h…

In my experience that is a lot less true with customer facing jobs or jobs where there is an element of external facing presentation (like the note above). The candidate is going to get the same treatment from every crowd or customer.

If someone is doing an internal facing role, especially engineering, it may only come up during things like team stand ups, or certain types of design reviews, or not at all. So less of a problem.

Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed

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I've been a hiring manager for remote positions for a long time. If your recruiting channels are good, most of your candidates are going to be honest and good intentioned. But interview enough people, and you'll start encountering people trying to abuse remote work. They're not interested in contributing to your company. They're only interested in collecting paychecks while they do as little work as possible for as l…

> Always makes me wonder how many dysfunctional companies are out there letting deadbeat remote employees collect paychecks and do as little work as possible because nobody cares enough to press the issue. There are corporations that over-hire and often provide no work at all for weeks or months, but they require that worker is always on stand-by in case there is a surge. I know full-time workers who throughout an en…

It’s kinda the same way the military or firemen works.

Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed

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post #538

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IMHO, to the contrary: crafting one's message is a valid process for effective async communication.

Crafting a message well is important but more often, fast writing and decision making skills are more important. Why do you think so many professors and managers write extremely short, almost informal sounding replies. If you're an excellent writer who takes 20 minutes typing up a single email and then need another 20 minutes to destress because emails in formal settings make you anxious then you probably aren't a go…

Short and fast emails could just as well be a sign of someone who is bad at communicating.

Re: The new hire who showed up is not the same person we interviewed

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> Always makes me wonder how many dysfunctional companies are out there letting deadbeat remote employees collect paychecks and do as little work as possible because nobody cares enough to press the issue. There are corporations that over-hire and often provide no work at all for weeks or months, but they require that worker is always on stand-by in case there is a surge. I know full-time workers who throughout an en…

Hmmmmm, it's sort of like renting an apartment with one more room than you actually need so you have a place to put extra stuff, or you can have a guest over. Personally, I would go absolutely crazy if I did nothing at my job, even if it was remote, for weeks on end.

You are free to do side gigs, just you need to drop everything if the main job needs you.
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