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Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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The Cruise CEO is here, along with many grand stories of how good/safe their vehicles are. I can’t help but think this thread may be a marketing ploy. If this were the case, is it allowed on HN? Edit: In addition, any negative/challenging/sceptical comment is quickly downvoted.

If it's not it should be, this is cool stuff, a little shilling on a capitalist inspired news site should be expected and I think we're smart enough to sort the BS out from the good stuff.

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Based on this image: https://images.ctfassets.net/95kuvdv8zn1v/6h1C7lPC79OLOlddEE... They and their VC backers are clearly betting on the concept that radars + lidar + imaging will be the ultimate successful solution in full self driving cars, as a completely opposite design and engineering philosophy from Tesla attempting to do "full self driving" with camera sensors and categorical rejection of lidar. It is interes…

Cruise CEO here. Our strategy has been to solve the challenges needed to operate driverless robotaxis on a well-equipped vehicle, then aggressively drive the cost down. Many OEMs are doing this in reverse order. They're trying to squeeze orders of magnitude of performance gains out of really low-cost hardware. Today it's unclear what strategy will win. In a few years our next generation of low-cost compute and sensin…

An extremely wise set of decisions. I also see no reason, a priori, to 'blind' a vehicle to certain spectra of EM emissions; nor to accept that only passive sensing (cameras) can be used, when Active Sensing (probing, if you will) that Radar and LiDAR use is clearly giving the control computers more information about Reality (tm).

By using all (or almost all) available Active and Passive sensing technologies, fused with geofencing and operating at 'low-ish' speeds -- surely must be the fastest way to achieve 100% accident-proof self-driving vehicles that operate on ordinary city streets. Congratulations, Cruise. Keep up the Good Work.

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Tesla will release L4 or L5 self driving this year. Musk said it himself. Please ignore the fact that this is the 7th (or more?) year in a row he has said this.

I still want a functional autopilot that doesn't phantom brake on the freeway which has gotten worse since they stopped relying on radar. Or have the self park feature not curb the wheels. I won't even get started on the summon feature.

The few times I've ridden in a Tesla using "self driving" the phantom breaking was really jarring. It was surprising and concerning how often it slammed on the breaks for no reason.

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I would love to see these in more rural areas without great transit options. I would love to be able to take a driverless car to and from a bar when there isn't population density to support many taxis.

Is there any solution yet that doesn’t require the driver to be sober in order to intervene at any given moment?

The vehicle in this very article! :)

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Can confirm from personal experience in crosswalks with self driving cars: cruise is the most timid (read safest!) of the self driving cars being tested in SF IMHO. Cruise will proactively alter trajectory (such as deceleration) for pedestrians and cyclists at a noticeably earlier threshold than Waymo. This is much more pleasant for everyone surrounding the vehicle as it clearly expresses that you have been recognize…

Urban bicyclist here. I don't life in SF, but I'm really curious how current autonomous vehicles behave around cars. If you're biking down a one-way street with little room, do most autonomous vehicles just wait behind you? Do they try to pass? What kind of follow distance would they give a bicyclist who "dominates" the lane because it's too narrow to let a car pass safely?

I haven’t had this exact scenario you describe. In many cases in SF it is you passing them, not the other way around. Cruise gets confused in intersections sometimes, esp in the presence of unexpected cyclists and pedestrians. Their error state is to freeze. Then of course very easy to get around them. I also notice if I close pass the vehicle, they will brake or adjust course to varying degrees depending on street conditions and which tech stack.

I have never witnessed a self driving car exhibiting aggressive behavior towards cyclists or pedestrians. I have witnessed many humans driving cars exhibiting aggressive behavior.

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I'm not interested in cars I can't own. This idea that we'll turn cars into some kind of service and convert roads into places filled with company-owned vehicles is completely foreign. At that point it'd be cheaper to have self-driving buses and subways. I can only think this viewpoint comes from people who have only ever lived in cities where car ownership is inconvenient given the lack of personal garages. At the m…

Who said all cars would be replaced? There is PLENTY room out there for company cars and personally owned cars.

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I’m concerned about the timing of this. Former CEO Dan Ammann, fired in December, was a big champion of the robotaxi business model. It is speculated he was fired because GM CEO Mary Barra disagrees with this strategy and wants them to focus more on integration with existing GM vehicles. I am afraid that the robotaxi timeline was pulled in so that the rest of the believers inside Cruise can get supporting data to pro…

[Disclaimer] I work for cruise. Safety is the most critical value that our company has, and we live it every day in all of our processes / culture. I won't comment on the executive changes, but I can guarantee that this company (unlike some rivals...) would never compromise safety in any decision.

Hi Nicholas , Long time!

Yeah Cruise definitely seems to be moving with safety in mind. Props to the team for this milestone!

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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I'm not interested in cars I can't own. This idea that we'll turn cars into some kind of service and convert roads into places filled with company-owned vehicles is completely foreign. At that point it'd be cheaper to have self-driving buses and subways. I can only think this viewpoint comes from people who have only ever lived in cities where car ownership is inconvenient given the lack of personal garages. At the m…

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Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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I'm not interested in cars I can't own. This idea that we'll turn cars into some kind of service and convert roads into places filled with company-owned vehicles is completely foreign. At that point it'd be cheaper to have self-driving buses and subways. I can only think this viewpoint comes from people who have only ever lived in cities where car ownership is inconvenient given the lack of personal garages. At the m…

Cars are large, depreciating assets that spend the vast majority of their product lifecycle doing nothing. Conversely, metropolitan areas have to dedicate up to half their available space to empty blacktop storing these unused assets that sit around doing nothing. The sooner we solve on-demand transportation at scale without requiring a human driver the sooner we can move away from this colossal degree of waste.

All this tech we have is large, depreciating assets yet it still keeps happening. Humans are a large depreciating asset to the elite, lets hope they don't get tired of us anytime soon and replace us with AI and robotic servants...

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Amazing considering that he said he wasn’t comfortable putting his own kid in them just a few months ago.

He didn't say that. He said they weren't ready to yet. I think he meant legally because his son is under 18 so their insurance wouldn't cover it and also it was employees only at the time so again their insurance wouldn't cover it.

I didn't get any sense he meant that he didn't trust the technology (otherwise he wouldn't be in it either).

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